# Trivial, yet controversial views (What are yours)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 25, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196 "2019-02-25T19:04:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![D.E.S.K.Top668](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@D.E.S.K.Top668](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D.E.S.K.Top668)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/101 "2019-02-27T18:15:01Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> I have to disagree with that. Wile E. spoke in one of the Roadrunner cartoons and he chased Bugs Bunny in another because the Roadrunner had sprained a giblet.

[Rachael Brennan at Cracked](http://www.cracked.com/blog/fan-theory-wile-e.-coyote-has-inexhaustible-clone-army/) has an intriguing theory re:Wile E. Coyote.

tl;dr.  
Wile E. Coyote, super-genuis is the president of ACME and uses intellectually inferior clones to test ACME products.

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/102 "2019-02-27T18:22:08Z")

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Chocolate and peanuts forever and ever, amen, in American candy bars, are boring as hell and I am now sick unto death of the combination. (Except the Reese’ peanut butter eggs, not the cups, the eggs).

Chocolate and orange is a ghastly forced marriage and benefits neither ingredient.

Mint ice cream or cookies or frosting tastes like green mouthwash, and adding rock hard chocolate chips doesn’t help.

Melted yellow cheese and bacon bitz swamping every other over-salted menu item (see: Applebee’s) is also boring and overdone. I feel a little sick for hours after eating there.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/103 "2019-02-27T18:25:35Z")

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Lipstick marks on glassware are a huge turn-off.

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**Author:** ![GESancMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gesancman/32/2923_2.png) [@GESancMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GESancMan)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/104 "2019-02-27T18:27:35Z")

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The Star Wars prequels aren’t the travesty many people make them out to be. I’m not saying they’re good, mind you. But I don’t feel like George Lucas ruined my life by creating these movies. They have plenty wrong with them, but they are watchable.

I think many people rag on the prequels because it is fashionable to do so. And having said this, I predict there will be many responses assuring me that I am quite wrong, the movies should be erased from existence and Lucas deserves to be lynched, and so on.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/105 "2019-02-27T18:44:18Z")

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Heavy Metal anthems should be declared illegal. Their singers are better at raging, growling and screaming. They should never attempt to sing anything soulful or romantic, or attempt to show that they can be musically diverse. Stay in your lane.

I like Nickelback enough to not turn to another station when they’re on.

Coffee is hot liquid sewage, no matter how much you dress it up.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/106 "2019-02-27T19:02:41Z")

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My favorite music genre is prog rock.

Leno was funnier than Letterman. Still is.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/107 "2019-02-27T19:13:53Z")

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> [@Jane\_Elliot](#):
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> Most (not all) male comedians aren’t at all funny.
> 
> Makeup isn’t for me, but everyone should be able to wear it openly, without judgment.
> 
> There’s really no such thing as men’s & women’s clothing styles. It’s all just clothing. The only real difference is how the tailoring makes it fit on your body type.
> 
> Tattoos are nice until they start to fade, then it just looks like mud.
> 
> Authors own fans nothing. If they want to kill all your favorites, turn them into wankers, or make them Mary Sue’s, that’s their privilege as the creator.

Ha! HERES a hot take:

Women stand-ups _used_ to suck. Judy Tenuta of all people was the only good one. The stereotype of 'all they talk about is their periods and their boyfriends" is true.

Until Ellen Degeneres came along. Now women rule the comedy world.

I agree authors owe fans nothing. But any piece of art, once its put out there, is no longer solely theres and they arnt even the sole interpreters of their art anymore.

…but I agree with what you say about they can do any darn thing that they want,

AND FOR FUCKS SAKE in The Last Jedi, Luke had ONE moment of weakness wherein he was probably being influenced by Snope. He isnt “ruined” cmon.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/108 "2019-02-27T19:15:59Z")

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> [@GESancMan](#):
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> The Star Wars prequels aren’t the travesty many people make them out to be. I’m not saying they’re good, mind you. But I don’t feel like George Lucas ruined my life by creating these movies. They have plenty wrong with them, but they are watchable.
> 
> I think many people rag on the prequels because it is fashionable to do so. And having said this, I predict there will be many responses assuring me that I am quite wrong, the movies should be erased from existence and Lucas deserves to be lynched, and so on.

I’m gonna make another Last Jedi comment…its very watchable. Watch it from the beginning and i wont flip the channel until a good ways into Rey Fantasy Island. Thats like an hour.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/109 "2019-02-27T19:24:36Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> Also … iceberg lettuce is the best lettuce. Crisp, juicy, sweet.

Please, eat up all that crunchy water. More arugula for me!

> [@nightshadea](#):
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> there needs to be a law about what kind of music a 12 year old child can sing in public or tv or social media ……. sure she can almost sound like whitney but the words “I wanna feel the heat with somebody” shouldn’t come our of her or his mouth for another 3-4 years at least

All right, I’m leaving your lawn.

> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Every Led Zeppelin song sounds alike.

That’s just because the song remains the same.

> [@dorvann](#):
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> Nirvana is overrated. If Kurt Cobain hadn’t committed suicide I don’t think they would have been put on a pedestal as much as they are. And I say this as someone who grew listen to them in high school in the early 90s.

IDK man. Nirvana was HUGE well before Cobain’s death. And let’s not forget what a huge quantum shift rock music underwent coming out of the hair 1980’s bands into a whole different genre with the epic rise of grunge. And it all happened so fast, too.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Conan O’Brien only looks funny. He was actually never funny. He thinks whining and squealing is all he needs to be funny. He’s wrong. He’s always been wrong.

Blasphemy! Conan O’Brien has been funny for a long, long time.

> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> Robin Williams was about as funny as toothache.  
> If they hadn’t bred the flavour out of lettuce (yes, iceberg, I mean you) you would never have heard of rocket.

Even coked up Robin Williams? Agree on iceberg lettuce though. Not only no flavor, but essentially zero nutritional value as well.

> [@Teuton](#):
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> The big hits “Paradise City” and “Sweet Child Of Mine” are the worst songs on Appetite For Destruction.

I agree about “Paradise”. I think it’s the weakest track on the record. But I also think every other song on it rocks, including “Sweet Child”. That song just got played to death. Still is, just on classic rock stations now.

> [@Dropo](#):
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> Harry Truman was a bad president.
> 
> So-called “white chocolate” is illegal and immoral.

Why do you think Truman was a bad President? He faced some pretty tough choices and situations during his tenure.

And yup, “white chocolate”, so-called, isn’t even real chocolate and it’s like eating wax.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/110 "2019-02-27T19:44:16Z")

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> [@dorvann](#):
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> Nirvana is overrated. If Kurt Cobain hadn’t committed suicide I don’t think they would have been put on a pedestal as much as they are.

The only talent in that band was Dave.

> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> While I like fresh figs, I find that properly dried ones that I harvested from my own trees can taste better than fresh.
> 
> If you think that opinion isn’t controversial, go ahead and express it in an online fig forum. :eek:

“An”? How many are there? 😕

> [@Akaj](#):
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> Lipstick marks on glassware are a huge turn-off.

And yet those same marks \*elsewhere \*are an incredible turn-on. 😉

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/111 "2019-02-27T20:25:26Z")

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> [@Wallaby](#):
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> Most people are pretty nice, generally. Not ignorant, not d!ckheads, not raving right/left loonies.  
> Unfortunately, no one pays attention to them, or reports about them or even mentions them (‘Good stories don’t make the Evening News’).  
> And now, with social Media of all shades, only the loud, controversial opinions or staments garner any attention.  
> As a result, we have ‘normalised’ the extremes, and people think they HAVE to take a position on any issue - even if it’s of little interest or consequence to them - and that they have to adopt one of the extremes.  
> Yes, 'twas always thus to some extent, but it’s getting worse.

My offshoot of this is while normalizing what used to be considered taboo or uncouth (such as being gay or trans) is healthy for an open society, it’s created the notion that unless you’re gay/trans/bi or something to that effect you aren’t normal and you’re in the wrong.

Younger generations will be much more tolerant of those communities, but they’re also growing up thinking they’re incorrect for being “normal”.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/112 "2019-02-27T20:31:14Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> My offshoot of this is while normalizing what used to be considered taboo or uncouth (such as being gay or trans) is healthy for an open society, it’s created the notion that unless you’re gay/trans/bi or something to that effect you aren’t normal and you’re in the wrong.
> 
> Younger generations will be much more tolerant of those communities, but they’re also growing up thinking they’re incorrect for being “normal”.

Interesting notion, but I have a hard time believing it. I think we’re a long way from a white, cis, hetero high school kid feeling less “normal” than a queer kid of color.

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**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/113 "2019-02-27T21:17:07Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Why do you think Truman was a bad President? He faced some pretty tough choices and situations during his tenure.

I will try to be brief and cursory.

Let me first acknowledge that Truman’s presidency was not wholly without merit, particularly in the area of civil rights. I give him some credit for the Marshall Plan, Berlin Airlift, recognition of Israel and the decisions to drop the a-bombs on Japan.

On the domestic front, his economic policies in response to post-war inflation, low prices and a massive wave of strikes were largely failures. The Taft-Hartley Act, a virulently anti-union law, was passed over his veto and he failed in his vow to repeal it. His attempted nationalization of the railroads in 1946 and steel mills in 1952 were frightening examples of executive overreach. And they failed.

Truman himself called the McCarran Act – as blatant a violation of the First Amendment as has ever been passed – “terrible.” It passed over his veto. He was too passive, imo, in calling out McCarthyism. His administration was beset with corruption.

It is in the field of foreign affairs, particularly in his role as commander in chief that Truman’s failures are most notable. His handling of the Korean “police action” was reprehensible; from not seeking Congressional consent to send in U.S. forces – a plague of a precedent we suffer from to this day - to ignoring Chinese warnings that they would enter the war if U.S. forces crossed the Yalu River, resulting in a near-loss, years-long stalemate, and the needless deaths of thousands on all sides of the conflict. Imo, this is worse than merely being war criminal in chief; it amounts to being an incompetent war criminal in chief.

In sum, I think Truman shares (too) many qualities with W. Bush. Both were born and (largely) raised in small towns, both won narrow election victories, both were generally weak presidents who passed little of their respective agendas, both made several poor appointments, and both abused the Constitution to the country’s detriment.  
And on topic, Marlon Brando’s best performance is in _Superman_ where he perfectly captures the essence of Jor-El.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/114 "2019-02-28T00:37:09Z")

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> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#):
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> If you go and watch “Green Room” you’re going to get a wildly different movie if you wanted to watch “Green Book”, which is the film that won. “Green Room” is a good movie with Patrick Stewart, but it’s pretty brutal.

A few days ago, I almost called it “Green Door”. My mind must have been in the gutter at that moment (reference to “Behind the Green Door”, a classic 1970s porno movie that I’ve never seen). :o

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/115 "2019-02-28T00:41:05Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> My offshoot of this is while normalizing what used to be considered taboo or uncouth (such as being gay or trans) is healthy for an open society, it’s created the notion that unless you’re gay/trans/bi or something to that effect you aren’t normal and you’re in the wrong.

I agree.

Acceptance of a “difference” is one thing; making people who don’t have that “difference” think that something is wrong with THEM is very much another.

p.s. Something very similar can also be said about ADHD and autism.

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/116 "2019-02-28T00:48:14Z")

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> [@GESancMan](#):
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> The Star Wars prequels aren’t the travesty many people make them out to be. I’m not saying they’re good, mind you. But I don’t feel like George Lucas ruined my life by creating these movies. They have plenty wrong with them, but they are watchable.
> 
> I think many people rag on the prequels because it is fashionable to do so. And having said this, I predict there will be many responses assuring me that I am quite wrong, the movies should be erased from existence and Lucas deserves to be lynched, and so on.

I actually liked the prequels as well and thought fans were overreacting when they complained them. Which lead me to believe maybe fans were overreacting when they said _The Star Wars Holiday Special_ was horrible. So I finally got around to watching it and I can honestly say _The Star Wars Holiday Special_ is probably the worst movie I have ever seen. It definitely deserves the scorn it gets and I have hard time believing anyone could say its good. It’s not even good in a “it’s so bad it’s good” way; there are parts of it that are just cringe-worthy.

Speaking of badly reviewed movies. I enjoyed _Hulk_-(the 2003 movie with Eric Bana and Nicke Nolte) as well the two Fantastic Four films with Chris Evans and Jessica Alba.

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/117 "2019-02-28T00:57:44Z")

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> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> My favorite music genre is prog rock.
> 
> Leno was funnier than Letterman. Still is.

I definitely enjoyed Jay Leno way more David Letterman. Jay was the more personable of the two; I always found Letterman to be a little arrogant and pretentious.

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**Author:** ![Haldurson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/51bf81/32.png) [@Haldurson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Haldurson)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/118 "2019-02-28T02:32:25Z")

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There’s no such thing as ‘common sense’. It makes me cringe every time I hear someone ask why people don’t have common sense. My answer is that there is no such thing. What usually gets labeled as common sense is either not common, or sensible, or both. It’s just something that the speaker invoking common sense was too lazy to actually research, and so he invokes common sense and thus YOU need to just accept it as true also.

Personally, I’ve seen people and have known people who were not exposed to certain things in their upbringing because of a dysfunctional family or a specific family member, or who were not raised in families at all. I also have met and know people who simply were raised in different cultures and also not exposed to these so-called common sense ideas. But worst of all, is when people invoke common sense for things that aren’t even true, or that may not be true (due to a lack of research) and had the person actually made an effort to do the research you’d no longer be able to call it common sense (because anything that requires research to prove, whether true or not, cannot be claimed to be common sense).

Anyway, the phrase ‘it’s just common sense’ bugs the living hell out of me.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/119 "2019-02-28T02:56:09Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I agree.
> 
> Acceptance of a “difference” is one thing; making people who don’t have that “difference” think that something is wrong with THEM is very much another.
> 
> p.s. Something very similar can also be said about ADHD and autism.

I’ve actually seen it IRL. It’s a bit more complicated of a situation and giving my opinion on it would actually get me yelled at here, but what I said is the base version of it.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivial-yet-controversial-views-what-are-yours/830196/120 "2019-02-28T03:40:59Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> I’ve actually seen it IRL. It’s a bit more complicated of a situation and giving my opinion on it would actually get me yelled at here, but what I said is the base version of it.

Third time I’ve mentioned Forever War this week…something like that happens there, but the pressure to be gay is economic I believe. And then it just becomes the norm.

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