# Troll Food Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 19, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912 "2019-08-19T23:29:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/21 "2019-08-20T19:02:33Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Also: While that arguably had utility before, this time it’s just tone policing. You’re avoiding responding to his actual argument that you are fucking up by responding to trolls while telling others that they should ignore trolls. So I’ll once again point out how, “Never in the history of ‘calm down’ has saying ‘calm down’ ever resulted in an angry person calming down.” It’s a shitty move to tell someone the thing they are concerned about doesn’t matter. You can address what they are bringing up without being dismissive of their concerns. You don’t have to hide a passive aggressive attack, essentially calling them stupid because they care about something they don’t think matters. Thing is, I already disagreed with the OP about blaming the people who reply to trolls. But I get so fucking tired of people who are normally good people pulling this obvious bullshit. I’ve wondered if I should just start going into Pit threads and telling everyone that whatever they are concerned about doesn’t really matter and that they should just calm down, so maybe they’d get a clue about how that feels, and how it helps nothing. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/22 "2019-08-20T19:03:44Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > While that arguably had utility before, this time it’s just tone policing. You’re avoiding responding to his actual argument that you are fucking up by responding to trolls while telling others that they should ignore trolls. > > So I’ll once again point out how, “Never in the history of ‘calm down’ has saying ‘calm down’ ever resulted in an angry person calming down.” It’s a shitty move to tell someone the thing they are concerned about doesn’t matter. > > You can address what they are bringing up without being dismissive of their concerns. You don’t have to hide a passive aggressive attack, essentially calling them stupid because they care about something they don’t think matters. > > Thing is, I already disagreed with the OP about blaming the people who reply to trolls. But I get so fucking tired of people who are normally good people pulling this obvious bullshit. > > I’ve wondered if I should just start going into Pit threads and telling everyone that whatever they are concerned about doesn’t really matter and that they should just calm down, so maybe they’d get a clue about how that feels, and how it helps nothing. Okay! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/23 "2019-08-20T19:08:13Z")
BPC: I already explained in the other thread why this is victim blaming rather than anything helpful. I get that you’re concerned about the trolling around here, and I don’t blame you. You actually care about this board more than a lot of people, including people who should care. I actually think that, if they would just ban the people you have labeled Nazi and such, the board would be much better. Just one banning would scare away the rabble rousers who aren’t here for actual debate. But the blame on this board being trolled does not lie on those who “feed the trolls,” however you define this (In my opinion, those who respond to trolls are not necessarily feeding them). The people who enjoy engagement are fine. The people who are tricked are victims. The people who are good enough that evil makes them angry are the good guys, by definition. I will thank **iiandyiiii** for pulling out the tone policing, so I was reminded that I would just dismissing your concerns rather than being decent to you. Regardless of whatever faults you have, you are on the right side, the one that is actually against bigotry. The idea that “caring too much” is a fault is fucking stupid, and always will be. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/24 "2019-08-20T19:09:14Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > But not until after this thread, right? > > Regards, > Shodan It would be nice if you believed the Christian stuff you like to spout. Hitting someone like this when they are down is not Christian, and you know it. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/25 "2019-08-20T19:38:55Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > While that arguably had utility before, this time it’s just tone policing. You’re avoiding responding to his actual argument that you are fucking up by responding to trolls while telling others that they should ignore trolls. > > So I’ll once again point out how, “Never in the history of ‘calm down’ has saying ‘calm down’ ever resulted in an angry person calming down.” It’s a shitty move to tell someone the thing they are concerned about doesn’t matter. > > You can address what they are bringing up without being dismissive of their concerns. You don’t have to hide a passive aggressive attack, essentially calling them stupid because they care about something they don’t think matters. > > Thing is, I already disagreed with the OP about blaming the people who reply to trolls. But I get so fucking tired of people who are normally good people pulling this obvious bullshit. > > I’ve wondered if I should just start going into Pit threads and telling everyone that whatever they are concerned about doesn’t really matter and that they should just calm down, so maybe they’d get a clue about how that feels, and how it helps nothing. So what kind of troll are you? I still haven’t figured it out. You’re like a concern troll but more so. Is there a scolding concern troll? Do you contribute to this board in a way bedsides chiding others? I mean your schtick is pretty old and very annoying at this point. You junior mod on a level that I don’t remember seeing anyone else do. Honestly I’m surprised you get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/26 "2019-08-20T19:46:07Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > While that arguably had utility before, this time it’s just tone policing. You’re avoiding responding to his actual argument that you are fucking up by responding to trolls while telling others that they should ignore trolls. > > So I’ll once again point out how, “Never in the history of ‘calm down’ has saying ‘calm down’ ever resulted in an angry person calming down.” It’s a shitty move to tell someone the thing they are concerned about doesn’t matter. > > You can address what they are bringing up without being dismissive of their concerns. You don’t have to hide a passive aggressive attack, essentially calling them stupid because they care about something they don’t think matters. > > Thing is, I already disagreed with the OP about blaming the people who reply to trolls. But I get so fucking tired of people who are normally good people pulling this obvious bullshit. > > I’ve wondered if I should just start going into Pit threads and telling everyone that whatever they are concerned about doesn’t really matter and that they should just calm down, so maybe they’d get a clue about how that feels, and how it helps nothing. You could stop acting like you have just finished your studies on morality in heaven’s library and are back to report the facts you’ve discovered. Telling an overly angry and nutty young man to calm down is the right thing to do sometimes, whether he immediately calms down or not. Just thought I should “point that out” for you. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/27 "2019-08-20T19:58:50Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > So I’ll once again point out how, “Never in the history of ‘calm down’ has saying ‘calm down’ ever resulted in an angry person calming down.” On the other hand, a quick “shut up, **BigT** ” lifts everyone’s spirits. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/28 "2019-08-20T20:09:44Z")
When I first got here, everyone seemed smarter than [DEL]me[/DEL] _I,_ smarter than I. (…see?) And it was just so hard to believe that (on a site that ‘Fought Ignorance’!) some people were just here to parrot party lines and try to get others riled up. As a lifelong Optimist, it took a while to realize that not only can I not change people’s views through facts, but so frickin’ many don’t _want_ to change… and don’t care about facts. So after watching many great threads get totally derailed, I’ve come love it when one of ‘the usual gang of idiots’ drops a turd in a political thread, and _nobody_ takes the bait. The comment just lies there like the turd it is, and people walk around it on their way to a Real Discussion. > [@](#): > > So I’ll once again point out how, “Never in the history of ‘calm down’ has saying ‘calm down’ ever resulted in an angry person calming down.” Geez, calm down… (Couldn’t resist. Feel better now, Capital T?) ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/29 "2019-08-20T21:37:27Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > So what kind of troll are you? I still haven’t figured it out. You’re like a concern troll but more so. Is there a scolding concern troll? > > Do you contribute to this board in a way bedsides chiding others? > > I mean your schtick is pretty old and very annoying at this point. You junior mod on a level that I don’t remember seeing anyone else do. > > Honestly I’m surprised you get away with it. I don’t think BigT is a troll. I just think he has low EQ. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/30 "2019-08-20T23:25:46Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’ve wondered if I should just start going into Pit threads and telling everyone that whatever they are concerned about doesn’t really matter and that they should just calm down, so maybe they’d get a clue about how that feels, and how it helps nothing. No. No, you shouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/31 "2019-08-21T12:44:01Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > So what kind of troll are you? I still haven’t figured it out. You’re like a concern troll but more so. Is there a scolding concern troll? > > Do you contribute to this board in a way bedsides chiding others? > > I mean your schtick is pretty old and very annoying at this point. You junior mod on a level that I don’t remember seeing anyone else do. > > Honestly I’m surprised you get away with it. He is one of those ‘finger wagging’ trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/32 "2019-09-12T13:02:41Z")
> [@More NC Elections Shenanigans](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-nc-elections-shenanigans/816256/310): > > > [@More NC Elections Shenanigans](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-nc-elections-shenanigans/816256/309): > > > > I don’t think it was a “dirty trick” at all. Here’s what the Speaker had to say, from LHoD’s article: > > Oh, that is some fucking bullshit. Moore is deceiving you, and if you’re believing him, it’s [redacted]. > > No, no announcement was made about votes. Nobody said there were announcements: they said there were private assurances made. Multiple people, including reporters, received those assurances. > > Moore used 9/11 remembrance ceremonies to push something through that he couldn’t otherwise do. He’s a weasel, and I think [redacted]. > > Edit: and you know what, for some out-of-stater to come in and piously tell me that this is all right? Unless you want to continue the conversation in the Pit, I’m not allowed to say what I think about that. Of course it’s bullshit! It’s **HurricaneDitka** , the forum’s most obvious troll. Nobody with anything resembling honesty or integrity could defend what he’s defending in that thread. And we should all know that by now. What possible benefit is there from engaging with him? Seriously, basically all his posts come down to saying something obviously awful and wrong, then waiting for people to take the bait. > [@More NC Elections Shenanigans](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-nc-elections-shenanigans/816256/312): > > So holding off the vote indefinitely, waiting for the one moment when a representative is sick or gets caught in traffic or attends an _important memorial service_, is just fine and dandy by you? > > Short-circuiting democracy and throwing ethics out the window is acceptable as long as you like the results? > > Whatever happened to “elections have consequences”? Apparently they only have consequences if you can’t figure out how to game the system. No shit what he’s saying is wrong. He’s not trying to be honest. He’s a troll, or at least his behavior is utterly indistinguishable from that of a troll. There was one response in that thread to **HurricaneDipshit** that doesn’t belong in this post - see if you can guess which one. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/33 "2019-09-12T14:09:01Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Of course it’s bullshit! It’s **HurricaneDitka** , the forum’s most obvious troll. Nobody with anything resembling honesty or integrity could defend what he’s defending in that thread. And we should all know that by now. What possible benefit is there from engaging with him? Seriously, basically all his posts come down to saying something obviously awful and wrong, then waiting for people to take the bait. > > No shit what he’s saying is wrong. He’s not trying to be honest. He’s a troll, or at least his behavior is utterly indistinguishable from that of a troll. There was one response in that thread to **HurricaneDipshit** that doesn’t belong in this post - see if you can guess which one. Someone’s wrong on the internet! Run socialmediaoutrage.exe At some point people need to grow up and stop worrying that someone has a different opinion about a subject. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/34 "2019-09-12T14:15:51Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > At some point people need to grow up and stop worrying that someone has a different opinion about a subject. All this foolishness – Why can’t we all just get along. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/35 "2019-09-12T16:01:56Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Someone’s wrong on the internet! > Run socialmediaoutrage.exe > > At some point people need to grow up and stop worrying that someone has a different opinion about a subject. Right. HD is literally FOR exploding babies and the rest of civilization is AGAINST. Totally the same thing as I like chocolate and he likes vanilla. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/36 "2019-09-12T19:06:07Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Someone’s wrong on the internet! > Run socialmediaoutrage.exe > > At some point people need to grow up and stop worrying that someone has a different opinion about a subject. This is a discussion board. If we all just ignored other viewpoints, discussions would end, all threads would be one post, and cats and dogs would start living together. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/37 "2019-09-12T19:08:45Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > This is a discussion board. If we all just ignored other viewpoints, discussions would end, all threads would be one post, and cats and dogs would start living together. Does that make Octopus, Walter Peck? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/38 "2019-09-12T19:09:42Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > This is a discussion board. If we all just ignored other viewpoints, discussions would end, all threads would be one post, and cats and dogs would start living together. That is a good point. Perhaps, my post was poorly worded. Disagree all you’d like. But keep it productive and sane. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/39 "2019-09-12T19:21:49Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > That is a good point. Perhaps, my post was poorly worded. Disagree all you’d like. But keep it productive and sane. Same, like supporting McVeigh. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/40 "2019-09-12T19:32:02Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Same, like supporting McVeigh. Got it. What are you talking about? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912.md?page=3)