# Troll Food Omnibus Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 19, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912 "2019-08-19T23:29:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/81 "2019-09-22T01:07:08Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > In what way? Is a five year old with a vagina a woman? English, why am it are be so confusing? CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/82 "2019-09-22T01:35:13Z")
If you think saying female is misogynistic then you’re a real bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/83 "2019-09-22T01:47:53Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Is a five year old with a vagina a woman? > > English, why am it are be so confusing? > > CMC fnord! Yeah but no one is talking about a 5 year old, so. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/84 "2019-09-22T01:51:58Z")
> [@pool](#): > > If you think saying female is misogynistic then you’re a real bitch. I do believe that that is the argument being presented here, and I would be inclined to agree with your analysis. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/85 "2019-09-22T01:54:06Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > In what way? Do you really need this part explained? I don’t even agree with **MrDibble** , but now you’re being stupid. Female can be and species, woman is strictly humans outside of fiction. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/86 "2019-09-22T02:50:17Z")
“Female” is a synecdoche and yes, it’s rude. If you insist on using it, women will assume you’re a total douchecanoe and proceed accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/87 "2019-09-22T03:11:57Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > What the fuck are you even babbling on about, you idiotic worm? Calling people worms and whining about female. Oh the irony. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/88 "2019-09-22T03:48:20Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Calling people worms and whining about female. Oh the irony. Should he have said “invertebrates”? ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/89 "2019-09-22T05:21:32Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Do you really need this part explained? > > I don’t even agree with **MrDibble** , but now you’re being stupid. > > Female can be and species, woman is strictly humans outside of fiction. Yeah but none of that was presented in my original “females” post. This whole thing started from one poster taking mad offense to my using the term “female” and everyone presented arguments as to why that is offensive based on usage that I clearly didn’t even use. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/90 "2019-09-22T11:10:44Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Calling people worms and whining about female. Oh the irony. You clearly don’t know what irony is, you dumb motherfucker. > [@Annoyed](#): > > Yeah but none of that was presented in my original “females” post. Oh, you were talking about female pangolins, then? You were using females in \*exactly \*that way. You know, like a misogynist does. Now, whether you’re \*actually \*a misogynist, or just play one here for the lulz, is irrelevant to me. I’m just counting the days (and it no doubt \*is \*days) until the PTB put you out of our misery. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/91 "2019-09-22T11:34:41Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > You clearly don’t know what irony is, you dumb motherfucker. > Oh, you were talking about female pangolins, then? > > You were using females in \*exactly \*that way. You know, like a misogynist does. > > Now, whether you’re \*actually \*a misogynist, or just play one here for the lulz, is irrelevant to me. I’m just counting the days (and it no doubt \*is \*days) until the PTB put you out of our misery. Tha fuk? All I said was god damn “female” and your stupid ass loses your shit talking about pangolins & hoping I get banned or something. You damn fool it was clear I was talking about an adult female human being not animals or children or whatever other strawman you can dream up. You need to calm down. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/92 "2019-09-22T12:05:06Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > You need to calm down. And with that, you lose. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/93 "2019-09-22T12:13:04Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > Tha fuk? All I said was god damn “female” and your stupid ass loses your shit Ha ha. You have yet to see me lose my shit, asshole. But you can \*still \*take your pathetic attempt at tone policing and shove it up your prolapsed anus, if you can find space next to your neck. > [@](#): > > talking about pangolins & hoping I get banned or something. Now now, be fair. We’ve \*all \*been hoping you’d be banned \*way \*before you showed your misogyny. Except **octopus** , apparently, but he’s a microcephalic shitworm, so we don’t expect any better from him. > [@](#): > > You damn fool it was clear I was talking about an adult female human The word you want, yet seem incapable of saying, is “woman”, motherfucker. > [@](#): > > You need to calm down. You need to fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/94 "2019-09-22T14:03:21Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Ha ha. You have yet to see me lose my shit, asshole. But you can \*still \*take your pathetic attempt at tone policing and shove it up your prolapsed anus, if you can find space next to your neck. > > Now now, be fair. > > We’ve \*all \*been hoping you’d be banned \*way \*before you showed your misogyny. > > Except **octopus** , apparently, but he’s a microcephalic shitworm, so we don’t expect any better from him. > > The word you want, yet seem incapable of saying, is “woman”, motherfucker. > You need to fuck off. Liberalism folks ^ ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/95 "2019-09-22T14:57:28Z")
Not that I’m a liberal, of course. You don’t have to be a liberal to not be a sexist shitstain. And on the other hand, you don’t have to be polite to be a liberal. Especially not to misogynist trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/96 "2019-09-22T15:23:59Z")
All I said was “female” and look at the state of yourself. Oh and you’re a raging liberal, of course. Evidence is the state of your meltdown over a simple word, harmlessly used. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/97 "2019-09-22T15:26:21Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > “They’re only trolling you because they like you!” > > _— My parents, if the Web were invented twenty years earlier_ :lol: Yes, that’s what my mother told me when the antisemite in class used to torment me. Re calling women “females”. Yeah, it’s not a great idea. It’s usually mildly offensive. > [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s for the same reason that you’re an asshole if you call men “males”. It’s almost always used in a context that is negative toward men. This is the real reason. Because when you care more about a person’s sex than about their humanity, you are probably thinking negative or objectifying thoughts about them. It’s not 100% true, and I won’t write off a guy just because he talks about “females” when he meant “women” or “gals”, but my level of suspicion goes up a notch. > [@Oredigger77](#): > > First I want to qualify that I am trying to learn here its just the female thing goes against my general use of the language so I’m confused and want to make sure I don’t screw something up. > > In my head there is no difference in definition between woman and female and from a quick google search woman means: an adult human female while female can be of any age or species so it seems I’m right unless you’re saying using female implies a lack of humanity. > > I guess I would never say “the female went to the store” though I might say “the woman went to the store”. I would say “their hiring policies are biased against females” though. I’m pretty sure that female is a noun in both usages though I wouldn’t swear to it. Can you explain more about the noun/adjective thing? > > Is male sexist as well? It seems it carries the same connotation? When the news says “an adult male in his late 20s robbed the store” was that sexist or are you saying this is the adjective usage that is ok. So, “their physical standards are biased toward males” would be sexist? I think both of those examples show that people constantly refer to men as males… Yeah, you wouldn’t say “the female went to the store” because in that context, you are thinking of her primarily as a person with agency. In the second, you are talking about objects the employer is acting upon. And you probably wouldn’t say “their physical standards are biased against males”, in part because that would almost never be true, and in part because you’d be more likely to say “these standards are unfair to men”. Because you wouldn’t be thinking in the third person about some anonymous object being potentially hurt, you would be envisioning actual men and you’d feel the unfairness directly. Yeah, that’s not true in every instance. But it’s likely. The police ARE objectifying the perp. Because of the context, most of us are okay with that. On the flip side, it alway annoys me when people use “woman” or “lady” as an adjective when they mean “female”. As in, “the lady truckdriver”. Here, you are implying that it’s so bizarre that she’s driving a truck that you aren’t comfortable with the usual noun, you have to combine it with “lady”. If you need to specify the sex of a teacher or a nurse, you’d never say “the lady teacher”, you’d say “the female teacher”. Because you aren’t trying to avoid using the word “teacher” for a women. Thanks for reading, Oredigger. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/98 "2019-09-22T15:48:04Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > On the flip side, it alway annoys me when people use “woman” or “lady” as an adjective when they mean “female”. As in, “the lady truckdriver”. Here, you are implying that it’s so bizarre that she’s driving a truck that you aren’t comfortable with the usual noun, you have to combine it with “lady”. If you need to specify the sex of a teacher or a nurse, you’d never say “the lady teacher”, you’d say “the female teacher”. Because you aren’t trying to avoid using the word “teacher” for a women. Misuses of both “female” and “woman” grate on me, and there was a trend a few years ago to use “woman” as an adjective as a hypercorrection against using “female” as a noun. “Woman” as an adjective sounds too close to the grammatically grating use of “Jew” or “Democrat” as an adjective which is usually used by those who don’t like those aspects of the people they are talking about, sometimes making it a near-slur. So for instance “women lawmakers” sounds a little bit like “negro lawmakers” in that it _sounds_ like something an uneducated and casually but lightly prejudiced person would say, even if the speaker is actually talking about diversity and equality. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/99 "2019-09-22T15:49:20Z")
> [@Annoyed](#): > > All I said was “female” and look at the state of yourself. I’m looking. Don’t see anything different from any other pit thread I’m active in. You’re not stupid enough of a troll to think some motherfucking swears mean I’m upset, surely? > [@](#): > > Oh and you’re a raging liberal, of course Naah, nice try. > [@](#): > > . Evidence is the state of your meltdown over a simple word, harmlessly used. Sure, mate, whatever you have to tell your woman-hating self to get by… ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/100 "2019-09-22T15:52:11Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > On the flip side, it alway annoys me when people use “woman” or “lady” as an adjective when they mean “female”. > [@Ludovic](#): > > Misuses of both “female” and “woman” grate on me, and there was a trend a few years ago to use “woman” as an adjective as a hypercorrection against using “female” as a noun. Am totally on board with the dislike of using “woman” (or “lady”) that way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912.md?page=6)