# Troll Food Omnibus Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 19, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912 "2019-08-19T23:29:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/141 "2019-09-23T21:33:52Z")

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> [@Trancephalic](#):
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> Pizzas are just open-faced calzones

Waitwaitwait … do the calzones in your area not come with ricotta or a ricotta/mozzarella blend? Just mozz?

Or are you trolling me about food? 😛

(Serious Q about the calzone cheese where you are, though. Around here, ricotta is what keeps a calzone from being merely a pizza-Hot Pocket.)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/142 "2019-09-23T21:41:30Z")

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I’m genuinely curious as to why octopus is not on everyone’s ignore list.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/143 "2019-09-23T21:49:10Z")

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> [@mjmlabs](#):
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> Waitwaitwait … do the calzones in your area not come with ricotta or a ricotta/mozzarella blend? Just mozz?
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> Or are you trolling me about food? 😛
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> (Serious Q about the calzone cheese where you are, though. Around here, ricotta is what keeps a calzone from being merely a pizza-Hot Pocket.)

I’ve never had a calzone with anything but mozzarella. It literally is just a big pizza pocket. Ricotta sure sounds good though, I love me some ricotta in lasagna, ravioli, cannelloni, etc.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/144 "2019-09-23T21:54:46Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> There are a number of ways that could have been answered. Like actually explain how you’d feel if you heard your kids calling people retards or autistic in order to make them feel bad, and contrast that with hearing them use curse words.
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> It is interesting to me that you sidestepped that entirely and tried to expand that to everything is immutable, even someone’s behavior is out of their control.
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> It sounds as if you would be more comfortable with your kids insulting someone’s mental health, developmental delays, race, sex, or similar than you would be hearing your child say fuck or shit. Or at least, only the foul language elicits a scolding.
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> But feel free to call me a snowflake instead of answering.

How do I explain any of the ridiculous behavior in the pit? 😕

How would you explain to your kids pit behavior?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/145 "2019-09-23T22:21:42Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Autist #2 makes an appearance. What’s up drunky?

I’m not sure you realize how offensive this is. It’s a line that once crossed you don’t come back from.

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/146 "2019-09-23T22:25:21Z")

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Calling people autistic, or autist, makes it pretty clear you have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Adolf Hitler (hi Godwin!) was at least a minimally talented postcard painter. Mussolini made people believe trains ran on time. Stalin has an awesome mustache. You have none of these qualities. You are a waste of oxygen. Whatever space you occupy, would be more productively filled with a collection pond for gangrenous pus. You are a tedious, predictable, sad little something trying to pull others down to your level, but even for that you simply do not have the reach. You are a disappointment to your parents, you diminish the lives of anyone you come in contact with, and I’m reasonably certain you are not a nice person.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/147 "2019-09-23T22:35:47Z")

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Apparently we’re just a bunch of autist statists.  
Starving Autists?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/148 "2019-09-23T22:43:37Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> I’m not sure you realize how offensive this is. It’s a line that once crossed you don’t come back from.

When someone says I molest my own children, as drunky has, I find it hard to muster sympathy for what he is called.

All mental traits are part of one’s physical structure. Why is idiot, moron, stupid, low iq, etc or other traits that are manifestations of one’s brain structure acceptable?

Do you think someone born stupid appreciates being called stupid? People don’t choose the body, which includes the mind, that they are born with. If someone has an 85 IQ and doesn’t understand all the nuance or has the opportunity to have the education that others have and is called stupid do you think that’s right? The difference is a matter of degree.

I’ll repeat the pit is a vile place and is a mistake. What do you think is accomplished having a sub-forum where people gang up on other posters, lie about them, insult them in a vile manner, and do that for years if not decades. Was the pit ever intended to be productive or is it a failed social experiment?

What you and others are asking/implying is that there is a proper way to be an anti-social, cyberbullying jackass. Why is it that my preferences aren’t taken into account? Cunt is fine? Child molester is fine? Accusations of bestiality are fine?

> [@Isosleepy](#):
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> Calling people autistic, or autist, makes it pretty clear you have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Adolf Hitler (hi Godwin!) was at least a minimally talented postcard painter. Mussolini made people believe trains ran on time. Stalin has an awesome mustache. You have none of these qualities. You are a waste of oxygen. Whatever space you occupy, would be more productively filled with a collection pond for gangrenous pus. You are a tedious, predictable, sad little something trying to pull others down to your level, but even for that you simply do not have the reach. You are a disappointment to your parents, you diminish the lives of anyone you come in contact with, and I’m reasonably certain you are not a nice person.

Oh, the hypocrisy. You use insults that mimic the Grinch song that you believe are socially acceptable. That doesn’t make you any better. It just means that you seek social approval from the nasty souls that inhabit the pit.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/149 "2019-09-23T22:44:13Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I’m genuinely curious as to why octopus is not on everyone’s ignore list.

I have a pretty high ignore-list threshold. As long as someone contributes the occasional useful post, I don’t ignore them, no matter how much they piss me off. And my definition of useful is broad - I can disagree with them vehemently and think their arguments are completely wrong, as long as they put some effort into stating their case and listening to responses. They can be a total troll 90% of the time, but I’ll put up with seeing their posts for the other 10%. Hell, even **Clothahump** at his worst wasn’t close to making my list.

**octopus** used to have actual contributions to threads mixed in with his threadshits, but something seems to have changed in the last year. His posts now consist of nothing more than personal attacks, whining about persecution, and right-wing buzzwords like group think, hive mind, and snowflake. I’ve been debating pulling the trigger, but his recent attacks on mental health and disability sealed the deal. He gets to join **D’Anconia** “Mr. Drive-by Turd” and **WillF** “I will ignore your argument because the answer is always libertarianism.” Well done, I guess.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/150 "2019-09-23T22:46:50Z")

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I took him off ignore to ask him a sincere question. I got bullshit in response. So back to ignore it is.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/151 "2019-09-23T22:50:55Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I’m genuinely curious as to why octopus is not on everyone’s ignore list.

Because it’s impossible to make “everyone” do anything no matter how sensible it might be and those people can’t be persuaded to STOP QUOTING THE LITTLE SHITNUGGET so one’s personal ignore list is essentially meaningless in terms of avoidance of annoyance.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/152 "2019-09-23T22:55:20Z")

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Alright, I’ve given the subject a bit more thought. You folks do have a legitimate point in that people born a certain way have not asked for that condition and it’s poor form to use those conditions as an attack on others. I will try not to use those words as insults in the future. Do me a favor though. Think about the words you use to insult others and try to show some of the empathy that you demand of others.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/153 "2019-09-23T23:02:10Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> When someone says I molest my own children, as drunky has, I find it hard to muster sympathy for what he is called.
> 
> All mental traits are part of one’s physical structure. Why is idiot, moron, stupid, low iq, etc or other traits that are manifestations of one’s brain structure acceptable?

Someone used a generic insult, so you should be able to use racial slurs. Seriously, that’s how poor your arguments are. They are truly terrible. It’s incredibly tedious needing to explain things that most people.learn somewhere in adolecense.

And that’s why people don’t engage with you most times. That’s why I hardly ever do. So the only folks that engage you are those that just want to insult you, or who they themselves haven’t yet or are unable to figure out that doing so is worthless. You are seeing self selecting responses that make you think everyone is a certain way. But that’s not so, it’s just you’ve forfeited any potential goodwill and you will never get any respect anywhere on the boards.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/154 "2019-09-23T23:06:26Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I’m genuinely curious as to why octopus is not on everyone’s ignore list.

I don’t ignore people here on the Dope. Not sure if I ever did except as an experiment at one point long ago. It doesn’t work well anyway. Most of the idiots I just manually ignore, especially as I don’t venture into GD much anymore.

I also seem to have a higher tolerance. Never had a real issue with \*\*Shodan \*\*or \*\*Clothahump \*\*as 2 long time examples that people bitch about. Octopus is newish to me, but I’m sure I’ll forget him again at some point. So no need to ignore. I think he is just a troll, so the problem will probably resolve shortly anyway. Or maybe it is Annoyed that is just a troll. I don’t keep lists on these posters.

I think I actually find \*\*BigT \*\*more annoying in many ways. He doesn’t seem to be a troll but acts a lot like one as he can’t help himself. He pops up all over the forums and all I remember is finger wagging and jr. modding. He still hasn’t come back to show me how wrong I am and how he contributes to the forum. Kind of how \*\*Liberal \*\*use to get to me.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/155 "2019-09-23T23:09:30Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> Someone used a generic insult, so you should be able to use racial slurs. Seriously, that’s how poor your arguments are. They are truly terrible. It’s incredibly tedious needing to explain things that most people.learn somewhere in adolecense.
> 
> And that’s why people don’t engage with you most times. That’s why I hardly ever do. So the only folks that engage you are those that just want to insult you, or who they themselves haven’t yet or are unable to figure out that doing so is worthless. You are seeing self selecting responses that make you think everyone is a certain way. But that’s not so, it’s just you’ve forfeited any potential goodwill and you will never get any respect anywhere on the boards.

Accusation of molesting one’s children is a generic insult? Say that to someone in the real world compared to insulting someone’s mental status and what do you think the difference in response would be?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/156 "2019-09-23T23:13:25Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Alright, I’ve given the subject a bit more thought. You folks do have a legitimate point in that people born a certain way have not asked for that condition and it’s poor form to use those conditions as an attack on others. I will try not to use those words as insults in the future. Do me a favor though. Think about the words you use to insult others and try to show some of the empathy that you demand of others.

I don’t have empathy, nor do I demand it of others. Do I still have to think about the words I use to insult others?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/157 "2019-09-23T23:17:10Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Accusation of molesting one’s children is a generic insult? Say that to someone in the real world compared to insulting someone’s mental status and what do you think the difference in response would be?

Back to the group of posters who will never get a response from me.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/158 "2019-09-23T23:21:18Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I don’t have empathy, nor do I demand it of others. Do I still have to think about the words I use to insult others?

Probably just a little.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/159 "2019-09-23T23:22:18Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> How do I explain any of the ridiculous behavior in the pit? 😕
> 
> How would you explain to your kids pit behavior?

You’re the one who made your kids an issue in the first place. You’re the one should be answering that.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-food-omnibus-thread/838912/160 "2019-09-23T23:28:42Z")

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Besides, nobody’s forcing you to post in the Pit. If you hate it so much, and think it’s so disgusting, (as you keep whining), stay out of it. There are plenty of people who don’t even lurk here.

You’re either a total masochist, or a troll. And I think it’s pretty obvious which one.

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