# Troll List

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 23, 1999, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022 "1999-09-23T19:09:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 1999, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/61 "1999-10-06T15:37:00Z")

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hell…you mentioned perversion…thats your imagination flying around, i dont want to have anything to do with that one…thank you very much.

do try to take this in as an enjoyable experiance…everything else is just plain boring…

bj0rn

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**Author:** ![kellibelli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@kellibelli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kellibelli)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 1999, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/62 "1999-10-06T15:51:00Z")

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(places hands on the sides of her head)

“Ooooooo the room is spinning!”

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**Author:** ![krish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c57346/32.png) [@krish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/krish)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 1999, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/63 "1999-10-06T20:27:00Z")

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Kellibelli,  
I am almost certain that Bj0rn debuted on that thread since his first post on it was during the same day that he registered his user name.  
Apparently, Hoe and Thorleifur were having difficulty proving that their was intelligent life in Iceland (i.e. they couldn’t even understand PapaBear’s obvious parody of Thorleifur’s threads), so they recruited someone who could barely speak English to further weaken their point.  
The other theory is that Bj0rn is just some Straightdoper mocking both Thorleifur and Hoe. If you read his first post in this thread, I think that he is implying that he is a troll himself–no one is ever really sure with this guy-- which kind of adds weight to the second theory.  
I don’t know which explanation is the correct one, but he is always good for a laugh now and then.  
It was actually Thorleifur and his inappropriate threads for GQ that caused me to enter the BBQ pit for the first time.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 1999, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/64 "1999-10-06T20:40:00Z")

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You guys (and gals) should check out his website. It appears he even trolls the visitors there. Here’s a sample.

_a start. now there’s an item hard to aquire in a world of words. but what should i be starting? it’s by your decision alone that you came here so i believe you have indeed started this yourself. well shame on you. you have taken away my freedom to make a thing happen. anyhow, i got fed up with my older page, because i wasn’t speaking directly to you, you stealer of beginnings. you are a thief of such quality that the victim is addicted to your success._

## I gotta say I’m more puzzled now than I was before.

“The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind.” - _Humphrey Bogart_

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 1999, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/65 "1999-10-06T20:54:00Z")

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It must be a code of some kind, UncleBeer.

Either that, or I have to take a remedial reading class.

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The big toe is a device for finding furniture in the dark.

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/66 "1999-10-07T05:07:00Z")

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> hell…you mentioned perversion…thats your imagination flying around, i dont want to have anything to do with that one…thank you very much.

Man, get a clue and buy a dictionary. The word used was _ **perverse** _.

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> per\*verse (adjective)  
> [Middle English, from Latin perversus, from past participle of pervertere]  
> First appeared 14th Century  
> 1 a : turned away from what is right or good : CORRUPT  
> b : IMPROPER, INCORRECT  
> c : contrary to the evidence or the direction of the judge on a point of law \<~ verdict\>  
> 2 a : obstinate in opposing what is right, reasonable, or accepted : WRONGHEADED  
> b : arising from or indicative of stubbornness or obstinacy  
> 3 : marked by peevishness or petulance : CRANKY

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> per\*vert [1] (verb transitive)  
> [Middle English, from Middle French pervertir, from Latin pervertere to overturn, corrupt, pervert, from per- thoroughly + vertere to turn – more at PER-, WORTH]  
> First appeared 14th Century  
> 1 a : to cause to turn aside or away from what is good or true or morally right : CORRUPT  
> b : to cause to turn aside or away from what is generally done or accepted : MISDIRECT  
> 2 a : to divert to a wrong end or purpose : MISUSE  
> b : to twist the meaning or sense of : MISINTERPRET

The two words aren’t even descended from the same word, much less mean the same thing.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/67 "1999-10-07T05:19:00Z")

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Ummm . . Kat? Hat to break this to ya, but according to your definitions, they both DO derive from the Latin _pervertere_.

-andros-

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/68 "1999-10-07T05:20:00Z")

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And I **hate** to break it to you as well.

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/69 "1999-10-07T05:45:00Z")

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You don’t say…

I only read up to: “from Latin perversus”

and completely missed: “from past participle of pervertere” which goes to show I shouldn’t be trusted with a dictionary after midnight.

Still doesn’t change the fact that they don’t mean the same thing, though. Or the fact that Bjorn can’t write a coherent paragraph.

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/70 "1999-10-07T12:55:00Z")

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about my debut yes…that was my first posting :)…accually yes, i do know hoe and thorleifur, hoe is a brilliant character but i cant say the same thing about thorleifur…but whatever, i dont think hes posting anymore  
the real reason for my postings had nothing to do with thorleifurs earlier postings or papabears reply to them…it was about how a country was being marked stupid because of one person(thorleifur), so i reversed the logic and threw it back at the states…and you all know what happened 😉

and about the perveratatethingy…whatever…no wonder i bloody misunderstood what you were trying to say…its like that alien thing [http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000089.html](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000089.html) where by the book they are really talking about extraterrestrial life, and therefore misinterpeting the articles they are quoting from

bj0rn

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/71 "1999-10-07T15:31:00Z")

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> and about the perveratatethingy…whatever…no wonder i bloody misunderstood  
> what you were trying to say

Yeah! How dare you use a word that might sound and look a little like another word that means something entirely different!! You bastards!! Don’t you understand that English is my second language and I can’t be expected to get it right? It’s your fault!

chidingly,  
-andros-

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“Listen Children Eternal Father Eternally One!” Exceptions? None!  
-Doc Bronner

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/72 "1999-10-07T16:47:00Z")

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andros is in a good mood today i see…  
accually it seems to be your fault…since you brought it up…

bj0rn

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/73 "1999-10-07T18:41:00Z")

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Um, bj0rn?

The punctuation mark that a sentence is supposed to end in is called a **period**. It looks like this: &nbsp;.&nbsp; It’s one (1) dot. A string of three (3) dots is called an **ellipsis**. It’s used to indicate a gap in the middle of a sentence. A sentence that ends and then “trails off” ends in **both** a period (.) **and** an ellipsis (…), which form a grand total of four (4) dots, like this: &nbsp;…

For further information, please consult the “punctuation” song from _The Electric Company_ show.

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The truth, as always, is more complicated than that.

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 1999, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/74 "1999-10-08T12:50:00Z")

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yes and lol means??  
what about imo…or whatnot like that  
taking it even further…u for a you  
and 2 for other purposes than number  
and so on and so on…  
its netish…not english so shut up with that grammar thing, i never learned it

bj0rn

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**Author:** ![BenDover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@BenDover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BenDover)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 1999, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/75 "1999-10-08T15:09:00Z")

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LOL means ‘laughing out loud’.  
IMO means ‘in my opinion.’

You won’t find many people here using ‘u’ for ‘you’ or ‘2’ for ‘to’ or ‘too’ - just too confusing and hard to read.

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> so shut up with that grammar thing, i never learned it

I think we figured that out already.

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The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best. - Henry Van Dyke

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 1999, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/76 "1999-10-08T15:35:00Z")

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The sentiment so nice, I had to quote it twice.

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> so shut up with that grammar thing, i never learned it

Defense rests, Your Honor.

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“Listen Children Eternal Father Eternally One!” Exceptions? None!  
-Doc Bronner

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 1999, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/77 "1999-10-11T09:18:00Z")

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so i win by default since you didnt have a case! 😉

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**Author:** ![Sake\_Samurai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sake\_Samurai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sake_Samurai)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 1999, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/78 "1999-10-11T16:31:00Z")

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bj0rn: You’re taking a beating my good man! Not without merit, though - you do seem to be a bit trollish.

OT: About your homeland: I was in Iceland a few years ago and it was surreal. I landed at the airport (I won’t even attempt spelling it) and I thought it was surrounded by lush grass. When I went outside to take a stroll I found it to be not grass, but. . .MOSS! Wild. I thought the country was beautiful and I love the clothes (best goddamn wool in the world), history, epics (Snari rules!) and poetry.

Everyone should stop attacking bj0rn, Iceland breeds thousands of big dumb warriors and only a handfull of scholars - the odds were against him from the start!

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**Author:** ![krish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c57346/32.png) [@krish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/krish)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 1999, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/79 "1999-10-11T19:57:00Z")

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> Everyone should stop attacking bj0rn,  
> Iceland breeds thousands of big dumb  
> warriors and only a handfull of scholars -  
> the odds were against him from the start!

I wouldn’t generalize about Iceland being  
filled with big dumb warriors. Bjorn has  
told us that he knew Hoe and Thorleifur  
before joining. It follows then that an  
ignorant troll would be friends with  
ignorant trolls.

I hope that Bjorn does not represent the  
majority of Icelandic people because then I  
would feel sorry for his country.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 1999, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/troll-list/3022/80 "1999-10-12T03:06:00Z")

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I’ve been following this thread with some puzzlement. No, make that a LOT of puzzlement since BjOrn came on board.

Puzzling, incomprehensible, annoying, but sorta cute and irrepressible…then (drum roll) it came to me!

Muppets fans, remember the “Swedish Chef”? Yes, another bouncy, funny, incoherent Scandahoovian who bopped around, showboated and cheerfully roared out…something.

THAT’s why he seemed so familiar! Hey, fans of Nordic culture, these guys invented trolls! Honest, look in any kitschy souvenir shop that is Scandahoovian oriented. They proudly sell replicas of 'em, it’s a cultural thing. (And spare me PC flames; I married a Norvegian (sp intended) and have a herring aversion to prove it…)

{Deep breath}…yes, what we have here is truly a failure to communicate.

So, yes, decidedly, BjOrn IS a troll, in the very finest sense, of course.

Glad to put this in context,  
Veb

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