# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2048 "2020-12-18T11:03:03Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> He’s already been suspended, right? I’m not seeing an improvement. The most charitable interpretation is that he’s really this dumb.

And the most likely is that he thinks everyone else is.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2049 "2020-12-18T13:26:21Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> > He’s already been suspended, right? I’m not seeing an improvement. The most charitable interpretation is that he’s really this dumb.
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> And the most likely is that he thinks everyone else is. &nbsp;

Well, lessee here … among many other things (I haven’t really been following along closely) @damuriajashi dumped on @GIGObuster for being “stupid”, on @Left_Hand_of_Dorkness for being “racist”, on @iiandyiiii for being a “toxic racist”, on @engineer_comp_geek for modding him in ATMB, and on me for calling him a trolling asshole.

As far as I can tell, his view is that everyone here except him is either stupid or a racist asshole, or both. I suspect this view will be reinforced when he is, finally and inevitably, banned.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2050 "2020-12-18T13:36:58Z")

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We’re not just an echo chamber; we are a RACIST echochamber! 🙄

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2051 "2020-12-18T13:54:27Z")

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And I come back to your post and … the shitshow we’re now sandwiching.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2052 "2020-12-18T14:01:40Z")

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I was really hoping you guys would move all this to the other thread.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2053 "2020-12-18T14:03:20Z")

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This world of ours, it is a vale of tears.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2054 "2020-12-18T14:40:59Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> We’re not just an echo chamber; we are a RACIST echochamber! 🙄

You forgot “woke”.

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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2055 "2020-12-18T15:01:42Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> I did read through the entire thread. If you’d like, I can change your mod note into a warning and we’ll see what that does to your attitude.

I wasn’t justifying my accusation of racism I was pointing out that there was provocation (but not by LHOD). But by the time he stepped in, the dogpile had started, the temperature had risen, and his racist comments led to my inappropriate response (I was told in another ATMB thread that the rules were different in ATMB when there was an accusation of lying, I stand corrected).

As I previously stated, I don’t think he is a white hooded cross burning sort of racist. I think he is the sort of racist that contributes to institutional racism. I will engage in ATMB as if it were great debates. I only wish others would engage in great debates as if it were great debates.

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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2056 "2020-12-18T15:04:35Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> You racist fuck.

I almost never see any thoughtful posts from you on any thread. Your primary purpose here seems to be to hurl thinly veiled insults at posters you disagree with.

You can be safely ignored. Noone thinks you have much to contribute except cheerleading.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2057 "2020-12-18T15:11:02Z")

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Aww, look who’s back. Racist _and_ a liar.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2058 "2020-12-18T15:13:45Z")

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“VIEW 2 HIDDEN REPLIES”

Librul Woke Racist Echo Chamber secured.

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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2059 "2020-12-18T15:32:45Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Kinda sad that you continue to use that ploy when several guys have posted that they agree with him and me.

Can you point to the three most recent posts that you believe support you in that thread?

> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> And as for the rest and about the “opinoinons” (sic from damur) of others, you do really think that ignoring cites is ok, that only shows cowardice and ignorance when you just dismiss them with **unsupported** allegations directed to the scholars or people that are involved directly with the issue. Not a smart way to deal with what they report.

Yes. When you just drop links to internet opinions (by college students in college newspapers or internet journalists) and effectively just say " I agree with this article" without making any sort of argument. Then yes, we can ignore those cites safely.

Your cites are crap, they don’t provide data, they provide supporting opinion. Citing the toe folks that are implementing the racist changes in question as a citable authority is fucking retarded.

Everyone realizes how dumb you are and I suspect you do as well.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I don’t need any defense – but it appears that pretty much every poster in the thread, aside from perhaps 1, agrees with me.

How so? Are we talking about the same thread?

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Fuck you, you racist piece of shit, for slandering my family and millions more strangers whom you’ve never met, because of the color of their skin. What a worthless, racist piece of shit you’re showing yourself to be.

Yes I’m sure your black family members really appreciate you hiding behind their skin color as if it makes you more of an authority on race or something. That’s pretty racist.

It’s not because of the color of their skin. Black immigrants do not encounter the same sort of achievement gaps as the descendants of slaves that had their culture stripped away from them with centuries of slavery and replaced with a history of segregation and bigotry that no amount of education could overcome.

If you want to debate how culture can have negative effects on accomplishment we can have that debate but you have never demonstrated any desire to discuss the possibility that achievement gaps are anything other than racism.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> What a worthless, racist piece of shit you’re showing yourself to be.

Says the guy who wants to kick out hundreds of asian kids to make room for mostly white kids and justifies it because at least a few more black kids will get a seat.

Jut because you favor black people over asians, that doesn’t make you any less racist.

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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2060 "2020-12-18T15:35:36Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And the most likely is that he thinks everyone else is.

No, I don’t think everyone else is but there are more than a handful of posters who never present an argument.

I could probably start a list of stupid posters who never have a point to make but but it would probably be faster to just keep a list of the ones that do.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2061 "2020-12-18T15:41:17Z")

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Whole lotta whinin’ goin’ on.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2062 "2020-12-18T15:42:10Z")

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> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> I could probably start a list of stupid posters who never have a point to make but but it would probably be faster to just keep a list of the ones that do.

I’d be willing to wager (not as an actual bet, forum rules and all that) but just as a proposition, that your list of posters who sometimes “have a point” overlaps pretty well with my ignore list, populated largely by posters who have proven themselves to be dishonest, disingenuous, and/or racist.

You _lying_, _disingenuous_ racist fuck.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2063 "2020-12-18T15:45:02Z")

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> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> No, I don’t think

Hi, Jack!

[![](https://i.imgur.com/M6DR6ni.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/M6DR6ni.jpg)

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2064 "2020-12-18T16:09:04Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> We’re not just an echo chamber; we are a RACIST echochamber! 🙄

Fuck yeah! No wasps, Africanized bees, or Asian hornets allowed in this hive!

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2065 "2020-12-18T16:10:51Z")

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Those Africanized Honey Bees with their loud rhythmic buzzing! And the Asian hornets put MSG in their honey! Yeah can’t allow them here, this is a Woke White Hive

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2066 "2020-12-18T16:15:03Z")

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Bald-faced liars have no place with bald-faced hornets (which are actually wasps).

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2067 "2020-12-18T16:41:57Z")

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Anyone have any good recipes that use honey?

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