# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2068 "2020-12-18T16:45:03Z")

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Back in my Chef days, I had a signature special that was Honey Almond Crusted Salmon with a Sweet and Sour Citrus Sauce. (I also liked to make my servers say it 3 times fast.)

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2069 "2020-12-18T16:45:03Z")

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Recipes? I feed all my honey straight to my limbless squirming children.

(entered into the “Sentences I never thought I’d type” archive)

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2070 "2020-12-18T17:03:31Z")

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Yes!

> **[King Wilfred's Cakes](http://www.aunt-dimity.com/king-wilfreds-cakes.html)**
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> The recipe for Aunt Dimity Slays the Dragon came from a friend who works at Renaissance Festivals. Fair warning: The honey cakes are extremely messy, drippy, gooey, sticky (and yummy). One more note:...

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2071 "2020-12-18T17:06:40Z")

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> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> (I was told in another ATMB thread that the rules were different in ATMB when there was an accusation of lying, I stand corrected).

This needs some clarification.

There is a specific rule against accusations of lying in GD and P&E. This rule does not apply to other forums.

In every forum except the Pit though, personal attacks are not allowed. Saying “you are a liar” is a personal attack. This is what I meant when I said calling someone a liar is not permitted.

There are other ways of making accusations of lying that don’t fall under the rule of personal attacks. Those would still be forbidden in GD/P&E but would be acceptable in other forums, including ATMB.

In retrospect, I should have worded that more carefully.

> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> I will engage in ATMB as if it were great debates.

If you want to debate, post in GD. People posting in ATMB are there to resolve issues, so there are different rules and different expectations. Formal debate rules are definitely not a requirement in ATMB. Debate just for debate’s sake is also not what ATMB is for. The purpose of ATMB is to discuss and resolve issues.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2072 "2020-12-18T17:41:21Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> The purpose of ATMB is to discuss and resolve issues.

Issues about the message board though, not issue of affirmative action in select schools, racism in the greater culture, right? Seems like there are several posters confused about that and just move over here to continue the snit when they get modded out of other threads. I read this thread to learn how to be a better poster, not to continue diatribes redux ad nauseum.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2073 "2020-12-18T17:42:59Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> I read this thread to learn how to be a better poster,

You read the Trolls R Us thread to learn how to be a better poster? 😉

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2074 "2020-12-18T17:46:16Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> You read the Trolls R Us thread to learn how to be a better poster? 😉

I read Trolls R Us to learn who the problem children are so I know not to get sucked into their tar pits in other interesting threads. Kind of a “know thy enemies”.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2075 "2020-12-18T17:53:55Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Issues about the message board though, not issue of affirmative action in select schools, racism in the greater culture, right?

Correct.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2076 "2020-12-18T18:33:06Z")

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> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> Yes. When you just drop links to internet opinions (by college students in college newspapers or internet journalists) and effectively just say " I agree with this article" without making any sort of argument. Then yes, we can ignore those cites safely.
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> Your cites are crap, they don’t provide data, they provide supporting opinion. Citing the toe folks that are implementing the racist changes in question as a citable authority is fucking retarded.
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> Everyone realizes how dumb you are and I suspect you do as well.

Nope, what everyone notices from you is your cowardice.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2077 "2020-12-18T18:41:07Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Nope, what everyone notices from you is your cowardice.

You left out rabid monomania. Did I mention monomania?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2078 "2020-12-18T18:54:17Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> You read the Trolls R Us thread to learn how to be a better poster?

When I was a kid, “Trolls R Us” would more likely have been the place you go to buy these.

> **[Troll doll](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_doll)**
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> A troll doll (Danish: Gjøltrold) is a type of plastic doll with furry up-combed hair depicting a troll, also known as a Dam doll after their creator Danish woodcutter Thomas Dam. The inspiration came from trolls in old Scandinavian folklore. The toys are also known as good luck trolls.
> The dolls were first created in the late 1950s, and introduced in 1959, before becoming one of the United States' biggest toy fads in the early 1960s. They became briefly popular again during the 1970s through t...

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2079 "2020-12-18T18:55:28Z")

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Toys R Us stuck around until 2017. It was the store I always wanted to go to that my parents absolutely hated (because it was very overpriced, I realize now)

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2080 "2020-12-18T20:01:34Z")

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> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> Can you point to the three most recent posts that you believe support you in that thread?

No, HE IS TRYING TO EAT BREAKFAST!

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2081 "2020-12-18T20:06:15Z")

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Heh. His request is such quintessential sea lioning, I wondered if it was parody.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2082 "2020-12-18T23:01:37Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> You left out rabid monomania. Did I mention monomania?

You can say that again, if you check the last quote were I replied to him, he insists on demonizing a quote I made about an Asian student, trying to give the false impression that I did not quote also other Asians scholars and teachers (and scholars and teachers of other races too).

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2083 "2020-12-18T23:07:21Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> No, HE IS TRYING TO EAT BREAKFAST!

Had a late breakfast… 🙂

The funny thing here is that damuriajashi has claimed before that I ‘can be ignored easily’. Even on that he is a complete failure.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2084 "2020-12-19T01:57:32Z")

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> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> I could probably start a list of stupid posters who never have a point to make but but it would probably be faster to just keep a list of the ones that do.

**damuriajashi** , if you think people are provoking you in GD, don’t take the bait. Just ignore them. Report if you think it approaches trolling or harassment. Use the ignore list if you have to, that’s why it exists.

For god’s sake, don’t jump into the Trolls R Us thread and start calling people racists. Dare your accusers to pit you in [a separate topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/disingenuous-racist-bigoted-posters-damuriajashi-demontree/928300), don’t hijack this one.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2085 "2020-12-19T07:25:47Z")

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Not that you’ve ever really had any credibility before, but each utterance of “woke” or “echo chamber” plunges it deeper and deeper into the earth’s core. At this point, you’ve burst through the other side of the planet, and have left orbit.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2086 "2020-12-19T17:39:18Z")

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It isn’t fair to just blame **damuriajashi** -After all, both sides do it.  
😁

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2087 "2020-12-19T19:16:22Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> After all, both sides do it.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 good one!

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