# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 109
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2168 "2020-12-30T14:45:14Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > If trolling people makes you a troll, then you are proud to be a troll. If putting words in peoples’ mouths makes you a troll, you are moving to the top of the troll list. How is requesting politeness, and trying to have a discussion trolling? > [@Babale](#): > > No, because that means you are a confessed, unrepentant, and unpunished troll. I would like the last of those 3 to change. I am seriously beginning to question the reading comprehension of both of you. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2169 "2020-12-30T14:46:41Z")
I love how you’re trolling the Troll Thread by sealioning about being a sea lion. This is so meta. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2170 "2020-12-30T14:48:20Z")
If you can’t see how Czarcasm just misrepresented what I said today, I can’t explain it to you. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2171 "2020-12-30T14:48:24Z")
It is really a simple choice-Either you were trolling to divert attention with that “Fox is more fair minded than MSNBC” crap, or you are too stupid to take seriously. You might as well have said “Let’s look at all the _good_ things about drunken driving!”. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2172 "2020-12-30T14:49:53Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > I am a sealion. Now that that is settled, can we end this fucking hijack? ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2173 "2020-12-30T14:50:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It is really a simple choice-Either you were trolling to divert attention with that “Fox is more fair minded than MSNBC” crap, or you are too stupid to take seriously. I explained to you how you were wrong about that in this very thread. _This very fucking thread_. And you completely ignored it. Fuck off, please, until you tell me how my explanation didn’t answer your complaint. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2174 "2020-12-30T14:51:42Z")
You would be perfect as a pundit or talk show host on cable news, taking me out of context just now. You should truly be ashamed, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2175 "2020-12-30T14:54:04Z")
Yield: 6 cups # Troll Party Snack Mix Dance, Hug and Sing your way to making this Troll Party Snack Mix! **Prep Time** 5 minutes **Cook Time** 3 minutes **Total Time** 8 minutes [[image] ](https://www.mediavine.com) ## Ingredients - 4 cups popped popcorn - 2 cups pretzels - 1/2 cup small Jelly Beans - Wilton Sprinkles Candy Pearlized Diamonds - Wilton Sprinkle Jimmies in pink, blue and green - 25 turquoise candy melts - 25 bright pink candy melts - 25 yellow candy melts ## Instructions - Place parchment or wax paper on a baking sheet. - Spread popcorn and pretzels on baking sheet. - Microwave 1 color candy melts in a microwave for 30 seconds and stir. Return to the microwave in 15 second increments until nearly melted. Stir until completely melted. - Drizzle candy melts over popcorn and pretzels with a spoon. Sprinkle with jelly beans, candy diamonds and colored jimmies. - Continue with remaining two color candy melts adding jimmies, jelly beans and candy diamonds after each color. - Let set for 15 minutes to harden. - Break apart and enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2176 "2020-12-30T14:55:52Z")
And now, the most entertaining part of this fiasco-When the troll tries to assert itself and take charge of the thread. Ghod knows how many times I’ve seen this tried through the years…and the number of times it has worked can be counted on the fingers of one foot. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2177 "2020-12-30T14:57:14Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Troll Party Snack Mix You should be even more ashamed of posting this recipe than your last comment, because trail mix is in my opinion disgusting. Never understood the appeal. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2178 "2020-12-30T14:59:49Z")
Nope. You don’t ask followup questions. You repeat questions, ignore the answers, and then, when people get mad about it, you insinuate other people are bad. And then you somehow claim this is being polite. You admit you are sealioning. Sealioning is, as we’ve told you before, a disingenuous style of posting that is a form of trolling. Now you’re trying to pretend you didn’t just admit to trolling. It really does seem you go out of your way to “misunderstand” to piss people off. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2179 "2020-12-30T15:02:19Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And now, the most entertaining part of this fiasco-When the troll tries to assert itself and take charge of the thread. Translation: “Blah, blah, blah, blah…my fingers are in my ears…blah, blah, blah…I can’t hear you…blah, blah, blah.” Fine, don’t answer my question. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2180 "2020-12-30T15:08:11Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > It really does seem you go out of your way to “misunderstand” to piss people off. What pisses people off is that they for some reason unknown to me get angry and start hurling around bullshit accusations whenever I criticize liberals, or God forbid not agree with every accusation that is made about Trump and his admin. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2181 "2020-12-30T15:17:23Z")
It’s not that you criticize liberals, nor that you don’t agree with every accusation that is made about Trump and cronies, it’s that you do so disingenuously. Maybe it’s not intentional, maybe your intent is not to troll, but the way that you attack liberals and defend republicans is pretty trolly. You “just ask questions”, you don’t answer questions yourself, and you try to equivocate, to imply that one side is just as bad as the other. When pressed, you pretend to be too noble or polite to actually back the assertions that you make, but certainly do not hold back on repeating your requests that others make an argument to _your_ satisfaction and standards before allowing things to progress to anything else. So, if it is intentional, then fuck off troll. If it’s not, then maybe pay some attention to the actual discussion at hand, don’t make assertions and then refuse to back them, and don’t demand that others convince _you_ before you accept that they have made an argument. Or just keep doing what you are doing and get the satisfaction of feeding your persecution complex because everyone is _so_ mean to you. If it _really_ is for some unknown reason, then maybe take a moment to reflect and realize that the reason is only unknown to _you_. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2182 "2020-12-30T15:21:42Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > What pisses people off is # Norwegian Troll Cream (Trollkrem) ## Ingredients - 3 egg whites - 6 tbsp of lingonberry jam, or a 225g jar of preserved lingonberries in syrup - 50g caster sugar, (optional and only used if using unsweetened lingonberries) ## Method 1 Whisk the egg whites in a mixer with half of the lingonberries (that have been drained) or half of the preserve. Whisk until the egg whites are light and fluffy 2 Add the sugar if using and whisk until the egg white mixture holds soft peaks 3 Swirl the remaining lingonberries or preserve through the dessert and serve in small bowls or spoon into a large serving bowl. (It needs to be eaten within 24 hours, as the egg whites start to collapse if no sugar is used) ---
**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2183 "2020-12-30T15:41:56Z")
That seems like a lot of berries for three egg whites. Have you made it? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2184 "2020-12-30T15:44:03Z")
Hmm, what about using pasteurized egg whites instead of whisking 3 eggs, since we will not be cooking them? ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2185 "2020-12-30T15:48:54Z")
What exactly is “the way I attack liberals”? Yesterday you replied to me as if you thought I was talking about you personally. Are you telling me that this _false perception_ didn’t piss you off, and also maybe in the past hasn’t colored your perception of me? (More below on this) As for defending Republicans, I’ve said over and over I’m not defending anyone, in the same way that I criticizing liberals is not an attack. This is not personal, it’s an attempt at a discussion. I have never once implied that _one side is just as bad as the other_. Not yesterday, not ever. The fact that you can make that statement about me is very telling. See how one can get a false perception and believe it absolutely? If I had to bet, I’d say many others think the same thing about me. Fox vs MSNBC, for instance. I made it clear that I saw a difference in daytime programming between the two, not primetime. This distinction was roundly ignored, and somebody got angry. I back up what I say all the time, just like I did there, and people don’t reply and/or use the excuse that I am sealioning in the worst connotation of that definition, so they have an excuse not to back up _their_ claim about where I was wrong. I do not pretend to be polite, I am polite. Show me one time in 20 some years of posts where I was rude to someone outside of the Pit. You will not find it. In the “Trump’s Possible Crimes” thread, who was called out by the mod for being rude? Not me. **Lance\_Turbo** , that’s who. For two things he said. Nary a peep has been made here about that here, but maybe people missed it. I almost did, but happened to see it yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2186 "2020-12-30T15:51:29Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > what about using pasteurized egg whites instead of whisking 3 eggs, since we will not be cooking them? That’s a fine substitute, I guess. When using eggs from our own hens, I don’t mind eating them raw. My summer smoothie includes raw egg. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2187 "2020-12-30T15:51:46Z")
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