# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2021, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2208 "2021-01-02T04:32:37Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Have you reported this theory to the mod(s) of the relevant category(ies)? I’ve done that a time or two and they seem happy to get the early warning to actively monitor **so-and-so**.

Of course. If I genuinely think someone might be a sock or troll (by message board rules, not just personal opinion), I always report them. But I also sometimes post here to see if I’m just completely off base. I assumed people who actually encountered them would know who I was talking about.

I’m not sure I’ve actually brought up anyone since the software change who I didn’t also report. Maybe YWTF, because I wasn’t (yet) calling her a troll. And my track record in them later getting modded is pretty good.

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**Author:** ![Enjoy\_Slurm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enjoy_slurm/32/3937_2.png) [@Enjoy\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enjoy_Slurm)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2209 "2021-01-03T07:24:05Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I assumed people who actually encountered them would know who I was talking about

Who you talkin’ 'bout Willis?

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2210 "2021-01-03T18:03:49Z")

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Death by Slurm-Slurm.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2211 "2021-01-03T18:09:16Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I strongly suspect that a poster with a Futurama-based drink name is a sock. I also suspect they would search for their name.

I must spend too much time here, because I knew at once who you were referring to.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2212 "2021-01-03T18:15:32Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I must spend too much time here, because I knew at once who you were referring to.

The really scary thing is, I did.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2213 "2021-01-04T23:19:15Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> > [@BigT](#):
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> > I strongly suspect that a poster with a Futurama-based drink name is a sock. I also suspect they would search for their name.
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> I must spend too much time here, because I knew at once who you were referring to.

Same. But of course any Futurama reference would stand out in my head.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2214 "2021-01-04T23:26:56Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Same. But of course any Futurama reference would stand out in my head.

That’s funny because what made them stand out to me was the can icon, and I had to go back and look to remember it was a fictional drink and not Surge.

Also, didn’t we have a poster long ago whose name was a reference to the HypnoToad?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2215 "2021-01-05T00:49:24Z")

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That would have been hypno toad. But Discourse makes it difficult to search for the handle, rather than the alien.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2216 "2021-01-05T01:07:25Z")

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You can, as it were, search for @Hypno-Toad.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2217 "2021-01-05T01:07:58Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Also, didn’t we have a poster long ago whose name was a reference to the HypnoToad?

Long ago? He last posted just a week ago. But it’s punctuated Hypno-Toad.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2218 "2021-01-05T01:21:32Z")

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That azhat just got a (second, IIRC) warning for trolling the P&E thread about Trump’s call to Georgia.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2219 "2021-01-05T01:24:38Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> > [@BigT](#):
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> > Also, didn’t we have a poster long ago whose name was a reference to the HypnoToad?
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> Long ago? He last posted just a week ago. But it’s punctuated Hypno-Toad.

Huh. Haven’t noticed him around for some reason. Looking at his profile (after you told me the correct spelling), it’s probably the generic H avatar. I could have sworn he went with an actual Hypnotoad avatar.

Now that everyone has them, I notice avatars more than usernames. I already had a habit of glossing over who wrote a post unless I replied to them. Same reason the can stood out to me more than the name for the other guy.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2220 "2021-01-05T02:27:04Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> That azhat just got a (second, IIRC) warning for trolling the P&E thread about Trump’s call to Georgia.

Now there’s definitely a second.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2221 "2021-01-05T02:34:57Z")

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So… would that make this the third?

> [@Trump Pressured Georgia Official to ‘Find’ Enough Votes to Overturn Election](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/236):
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> And you believe that this is what Trump meant when he said And there’s nothing wrong with say saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated. Not to mention his repeated demand to “find” 11,780 votes. I have to consider this a troll. This is an official warning, the second you’ve received in this thread.

They ought to just order a topic ban and put them out of their misery.

ETA: Nope, as Hari says, that is indeed only the second. Still…

ETA2: And now they’re disputing the moderation in the thread itself! Number 3 may be on its way…

[https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/237?u=asl\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/237)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2222 "2021-01-05T02:36:53Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Nope, as Hari says, that is indeed only the second. Still…

If I do remember correctly, the third was elsewhere a few months earlier and not necessarily for trolling.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2223 "2021-01-05T02:41:12Z")

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Hi, azhat!

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**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2224 "2021-01-05T02:41:27Z")

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Saying anything that offends liberals or debunks liberals is “trolling”. I’m too effective. I understand that as a conservative I am held to a different standard here and have to pull my punches so as to not upset people too much.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2225 "2021-01-05T02:42:21Z")

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You weren’t “debunking.” You were setting up a straw man and tearing it down. Real pwnage.

ETA: **azhat**

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2226 "2021-01-05T02:42:53Z")

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> [@agzem](#):
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> Saying anything that offends liberals or debunks liberals is “trolling”. I’m too effective. I understand that as a conservative I am held to a different standard here and have to pull my punches so as to not upset people too much. -

You’re sounding like a involuntarily departed senile turtle.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2227 "2021-01-05T02:46:10Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> If I do remember correctly, the third was elsewhere a few months earlier and not necessarily for trolling.

Make that [fourth.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux/913349/1488)

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