# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 112
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2228 "2021-01-05T02:47:01Z")
Let me state for the record that the only reason I am on this thread is because I was tagged **AGAIN**. So I am not here “trolling”. I know that the tattle tale liberals are looking to flag me again because since they can’t overcome my facts and logic they must attempt to cancel me. I practice what I preach. I have never tattled on anyone no matter how vile the insult. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2229 "2021-01-05T02:49:00Z")
You don’t have jack fucking shit of substance to say. You speak in right wing bumper sticker thoughtlessness. As mentioned- are you Clothahump? ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2230 "2021-01-05T02:53:52Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > You don’t have jack fucking shit of substance to say. What is an example of my lack of substance? Can you cite anything specific? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2231 "2021-01-05T02:56:04Z")
Yeah, I asked you if you thought Trump’s call to the Ga. AG was A-ok in your book. You didn’t answer. And your stupid ass poor-me conservative, owning the libs bullshit is laughable. Dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2232 "2021-01-05T02:58:21Z")
Fuck you while you’re typing, too. (This laugh only available to those following along in real time, sadly.) ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2233 "2021-01-05T02:58:33Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Yeah, I asked you if you thought Trump’s call to the Ga. AG was A-ok in your book. You didn’t answer Yes I did not reply to that because if I did I would be flagged as “off topic” by a tattle tale liberal since that was technically not the subject matter. And even if I was replying it would not matter because replies to off-topic questions are still flagged. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2234 "2021-01-05T02:59:48Z")
So fuck you, what do you think about it? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2235 "2021-01-05T03:00:50Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > think “Must pwn libruls!” ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2236 "2021-01-05T03:09:11Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > So fuck you, I’m glad that you feel comfortable saying that to me. You know I won’t report you. That’s what’s so great about dialog with conservatives. You can speak freely and not be on pins and needles worried that you might say something offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2237 "2021-01-05T03:22:00Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Now there’s definitely a second. I’m okay with the first, but I kinda agree that in fairness the second is a bit of a bullshit call. Warn him once for trolling the thread and if he does so a second time after the first warning, warn him again. But combing back through the thread to warn him for the same offense on two related posts makes it look like a fishing expedition. IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2238 "2021-01-05T03:26:16Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > You know I won’t report you. Wouldn’t do you any good, he’s allowed to directly insult you in this sub-forum. It’s in the title. Also, while I agree with you that you shouldn’t have been warned twice for an identical offense, your argument was pretty crap. Whether you were trolling or not, you set up a strawman to knock down instead of directly addressing any individual post. You may think you’re “owning the libs”, but I’m not seeing it. 'course I’m pretty liberal, so what do I know? ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2239 "2021-01-05T03:42:29Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > you set up a strawman to knock down instead of directly addressing any individual post Yes, what was I thinking?. Clearly no one was alleging that Trump was trying to “ **invent** ” new votes. They were only suggesting that Trump wanted to {quote} **find** {/quote} votes which absolutely not suggesting that Trump wanted to “invent” votes and is completely different. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2240 "2021-01-05T04:29:34Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > my facts and logic they must attempt to cancel me Tsk, tsk… remember your capitalization! it’s “my FACTS and LOGIC”, otherwise how can you SCHOOL the Libs? ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2241 "2021-01-05T04:33:18Z")
Conjugate the verb! ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2242 "2021-01-05T04:41:59Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > I know that the tattle tale liberals are looking to flag me again because since they can’t overcome my facts and logic they must attempt to cancel me Your position is only unassailable only in so much as your “facts” exist only inside your head. No army, no matter how well equipped for a siege, can assail an imaginary fortress. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2243 "2021-01-05T04:45:05Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Yes, what was I thinking?. Clearly no one was alleging that Trump was trying to “ **invent** ” new votes. They were only suggesting that Trump wanted to {quote} **find** {/quote} votes which absolutely not suggesting that Trump wanted to “invent” votes and is completely different. So you’re saying that in this context the words obviously mean the same thing. So if a hypothetical president did ask someone to “find” votes, that would mean exactly the same thing as “invent” votes? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2244 "2021-01-05T04:50:29Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Yes, what was I thinking?. Clearly no one was alleging that Trump was trying to “ **invent** ” new votes. They were only suggesting that Trump wanted to {quote} **find** {/quote} votes which absolutely not suggesting that Trump wanted to “invent” votes and is completely different Fuck you. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2245 "2021-01-05T05:31:52Z")
> [@Trump Pressured Georgia Official to ‘Find’ Enough Votes to Overturn Election](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-pressured-georgia-official-to-find-enough-votes-to-overturn-election/929592/247): > > So, @azgem is claiming that Trump, in using the word “find”, was most definitely not implying “invent”. Yet his defense to the charge of strawmanning is that people in this thread who simply used Trump’s own word “find” are obviously thereby implying invent? I noticed that. This must be the unassailable “facts and logic” at which **azhat** is so darned “effective” – in fact, “too effective” – according to his own Dunning-Kruger inspired delusions. This is why he’s getting warnings – the libruls are terrified of his vast intellect and don’t know what to do. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2246 "2021-01-05T11:34:35Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Saying anything that offends liberals or debunks liberals is “trolling”. I’m too effective. I understand that as a conservative I am held to a different standard here and have to pull my punches so as to not upset people too much. Ah, the Standard Conservative Troll and Pigeon Chess Grandmaster response: “You’re just persecuting me because I’m not one of the Liberal Hivemind!”. Never gets old…or becomes true. And the neat thing about it is that it allows one to reject any responsibility or accountability for one’s words or actions…which is also a Standard Conservative Troll response. As long as you can claim any opposition or moderation is solely down to partisanship, you never have to accept that you’ve done anything wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2247 "2021-01-05T12:30:17Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > I’m too effective. At _what_? Making arguments that convince you that you’ve won the argument? Breaking forum rules and successfully getting reported for doing so? Because you’re sure as shit not effective at persuading anyone around you to change their minds. Most likely you blame that on everyone besides yourself: modern conservatives have trouble with taking responsibility. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=111) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=113)