# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 117
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2328 "2021-01-12T16:01:58Z")
@damuriajashi is back from hiatus! I wonder if he’ll be able to restrain himself this time? Any bets as to his next explosion? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2329 "2021-01-12T16:13:27Z")
You just _had_ to tag him, didn’t you… It’s bad enough I just read yet another instance of D’Anconia dropping his pants and squatting on a thread (a pointless and substanceless hijack about Obama, unsurprisingly), but now we’re going to get more “You’re all just a hivemind echo chamber” nitwittery to boot. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2330 "2021-01-12T16:20:51Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > You just _had_ to tag him, didn’t you… He’s just trying to provoke me. Trolls are gonna troll. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2331 "2021-01-12T16:22:23Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > > [@Gyrate](#): > > > > You just _had_ to tag him, didn’t you… > > He’s just trying to provoke me. Trolls are gonna troll. - Woah, it’s self-aware. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2332 "2021-01-12T16:23:17Z")
Turing test done run amok! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2333 "2021-01-12T16:32:52Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > He’s just trying to provoke me. Trolls are gonna troll. And, has your recent suspension taught you anything about self-control, or are you shortly gonna be complaining that “They made me break the rules!” again? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2334 "2021-01-12T16:38:56Z")
I’d say “needle and mock” rather than “provoke”. But hopefully you’ve learned your lesson! We’ve had reasonable conversations before, though it seems like years and years ago. Maybe we can again…? ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2335 "2021-01-12T16:41:49Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > And, has your recent suspension taught you anything about self-control, or are you shortly gonna be complaining that “They made me break the rules!” again? You mean the self imposed one? Or the one from several months ago? Because that one was bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2336 "2021-01-12T16:45:30Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’d say “needle and mock” rather than “provoke”. But hopefully you’ve learned your lesson! We’ve had reasonable conversations before, though it seems like years and years ago. Maybe we can again…? As long as you support discrimination against asians, I doubt it. At least not on the topics that relate to that discrimination. If you want to talk about sports or something, I think we can have perfectly cordial conversations but I have a hard time keeping it together when people pretend their discrimination is somehow virtuous because that discrimination benefits a group they want to give preferences to. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2337 "2021-01-12T16:48:27Z")
But you’re misreading me. I don’t support discrimination against Asians – I would oppose any policy that singled out Asians for discrimination. I think it’s better to have a lower value test score requirement for that school rather than leave everything as it was (if those are the two options). That doesn’t discriminate against Asians in any way. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2338 "2021-01-12T16:48:39Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > {…} Because that one was bullshit. Attaboy! You just be you and make sure those mean mods know the rules don’t apply to YOU! ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2339 "2021-01-12T17:13:14Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > As long as you support discrimination against asians, I doubt it. At least not on the topics that relate to that discrimination. In case you haven’t read the room, nobody here think’s iiandyiiii’s stance on Asian testing standards makes him racist. Try Parler. Oh that’s right, you can’t. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2340 "2021-01-12T17:27:26Z")
You supported a policy that would displace 200 asian kids and replace them with over 100 white kids and between 30-40 black and 30-40 hispanic kids. You didn’t seem particularly bothered by the fact that the majority of seats lost by asians would be given to white kids, you called that a side effect. You consider replacing 100+ asian kids with white kids an improvement if you also replace 30-40 asian kids with black kids and 30-40 asian kids with hispanic kids. Why is it that asians so frequently bear the burden of all your social justice? You don’t seem to care much about the cost of your social justice on asians. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2341 "2021-01-12T17:29:13Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > In case you haven’t read the room, nobody here think’s iiandyiiii’s stance on Asian testing standards makes him racist. Try Parler. Oh that’s right, you can’t. Read the room? LOL and people say I’m imagining the echo chamber. iiandyiii is a racist. Just because he is being racist in favor of blacks and against asians doesn’t make him any less of a racist. Just like white people don’t have to hate blacks to be racist against them, iiandyiiii doesn’t have to hate asians to be racist against us. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2342 "2021-01-12T17:30:46Z")
Anyhoo, if you watn to discuss this issue further you can come here: > [@Selective Magnet School in Virginia moving towards a lottery system](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selective-magnet-school-in-virginia-moving-towards-a-lottery-system/922347/698): > > Which is in line with the seething contempt that the teachers and administrators in Fairfax have demonstrated for these students - when they’re willing to go on record calling them invading, un-American nerds who do underhanded things like study harder to get ahead, they’re obviously willing to inconvenience them or cause some anxiety. I just responded here because I thought it was ironic that iiandyiiii was trolling on a thread called trolls r us. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2343 "2021-01-12T17:33:05Z")
@damuriajashi The way I keep seeing the exact… same… posts from you, over and over and over… I’m beginning to actually believe in the “echo chamber”. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2344 "2021-01-12T17:40:14Z")
It’s just ludicrous to suggest that lowering test score requirements is necessarily a racist policy. So ludicrous that it’s not worth discussing, any more than “white genocide” is. Is he trolling? Maybe. That (IIRC) he used to claim liberals called people racist too often makes me suspect trolling is likely. Or it may just be that DA is extraordinarily stupid. Either way, not worth discussing. Unfortunately that “reasonable discussion” I was hoping for doesn’t seem likely. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2345 "2021-01-12T17:50:29Z")
You are not able to have a “reasonable discussion” because you are an abrasive shithead who has a great deal of difficulty articulating what you want to say, and then blames everyone else for not understanding your point. Then doubles down on the assholery and poor explanations. Rinse and repeat. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2346 "2021-01-12T17:53:28Z")
You talkin’ to me? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2347 "2021-01-12T17:55:10Z")
damur is not able to remember that I’m not replying to him in the thread about the elite school. Yep, not getting smarter and only comes again with his usual dumb nutpicking arguments too. I see that others in this tread noticed that too. > [@Selective Magnet School in Virginia moving towards a lottery system](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selective-magnet-school-in-virginia-moving-towards-a-lottery-system/922347/702): > > So we can’t point to examples of actual anti-asian racism (there is more than one example) but you can change policy to discriminate against asians and in favor of hispanics without any evidence of anti-hispanic racism? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=116) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=118)