# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 127
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2528 "2021-01-28T18:53:11Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > It would be like kicking a puppy… You overestimate your ability to inspire any emotion beyond mild contempt tinged with pity. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2529 "2021-01-28T18:58:07Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I served on a submarine and survived an at-sea collision; on top of a full time job I’ve been taking care of a baby (half the work, or probably more accurately, slightly less than half) for the last 7 and a half months or so; I’ve been physically attacked by muggers in the streets of Honduras (and, alone and unarmed, successfully drove them off!)… I think I can handle whatever piddly insults you’re capable of. Well, I’m impressed. Particularly about the baby! That shit is no joke. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2530 "2021-01-28T19:04:38Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > on top of a full time job I’ve been taking care of a baby (half the work, or probably more accurately, slightly less than half) for the last 7 and a half months or so; That is _not_ helping. Poor Americans, your government really sucks. > [@Babale](#): > > If you were in the navy, shouldn’t it be AyeAyeAndyAyeAyeAyeAye? 👍 (we need a saluting emoji). Why do you have so many i’s anyway, andy? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2531 "2021-01-28T19:18:12Z")
I’ve shared the story of my username before on this board… it’s way, way more boring than you can imagine. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2532 "2021-01-28T19:22:48Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Well, I’m impressed. Particularly about the baby! That shit is no joke. > [@DemonTree](#): > > > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > > > on top of a full time job I’ve been taking care of a baby (half the work, or probably more accurately, slightly less than half) for the last 7 and a half months or so; 😆 How to impress women: ❌ serve on nuclear submarine ✔ take care of baby ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2533 "2021-01-28T19:27:27Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Poor Americans, your government really sucks. It does indeed in many ways. But at least, among some other potentially hopeful signs, our government is now perhaps beginning to make some real advances in upholding the rights of transgender people. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2534 "2021-01-28T19:27:33Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > I know most posters don’t agree with me. So what? The fact a bunch of people believe something does not make it correct - millions of Americans believe Trump won the election, and they are all wrong. And that shows that in the end you spectacularly missed one ongoing point I made in past threads, It was pointed by the ones you supported that most Asians were against affirmative action, besides the appeal to popularity being a fallacy as you recognize here now, [the overall picture shows](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/70-asian-americans-support-affirmative-action-here-s-why-misconceptions-n1247806) that in California the defeat of the latest proposition was likely due to a confusing proposition. There was also the continuously denied elephant in the room, a lot of the oxygen administered to the efforts against using a weak version of affirmative action in the colleges came from the support of the former racist in chief. Under that it was really asinine to claim that it was the supporters of the colleges position of using race as one factor for accepting students the ones being racist. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2535 "2021-01-28T19:28:26Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’ve shared the story of my username before on this board… it’s way, way more boring than you can imagine. Don’t tell me then, I’ll imagine something better. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2536 "2021-01-28T19:28:59Z")
Still waiting for the puppy kicking… ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2537 "2021-01-28T19:34:03Z")
And one other thing Demontree said about me earlier: > [@White Supremacy is not a rhetorical tactic, ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-supremacy-is-not-a-rhetorical-tactic-zpg-zealot/920396/4): > > There’s no point ‘going after’ ZPG\_Zealot. She’s nutso, and no one’s going to listen to her. Whereas iiandyiiii is a rational, if sometimes terrifying, poster. “rational, if sometimes terrifying” seems a bit different than “devastatingly feeble” to me; YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2538 "2021-01-28T19:35:46Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > > [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > > > Well, I’m impressed. Particularly about the baby! That shit is no joke. > > > [@DemonTree](#): > > > > > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > > > > > on top of a full time job I’ve been taking care of a baby (half the work, or probably more accurately, slightly less than half) for the last 7 and a half months or so; > > 😆 How to impress women: > > ❌ serve on nuclear submarine > ✔ take care of baby ☺ As the new parent of a ten-month old, that one just resonated. The submarine thing is pretty cool too. Well, not the crashing part. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2539 "2021-01-28T19:48:02Z")
Thank you! Luckily, I wasn’t on watch during the crashing. I was asleep and almost thrown out of my bunk. Those who were on watch at the time were subsequently fired. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2540 "2021-01-28T19:50:45Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > As the new parent of a ten-month old, that one just resonated. The submarine thing is pretty cool too. Well, not the crashing part. For me too. Babies are hard work! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2541 "2021-01-28T19:51:48Z")
I have 2 daughters. I’ve changed hundreds of diapers, maybe over a thousand. I’ve lost so much sleep when they were babies. My oldest is a teenager now so I expect I’ll lose even more sleep for different reasons. Being a dad (or any kind of parent or caregiver to a child) is no joke. It sucks a lot but at the same time it’s the best thing in the world. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2542 "2021-01-28T19:51:53Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Thank you! Luckily, I wasn’t on watch during the crashing. I was asleep and almost thrown out of my bunk. Those who were on watch at the time were subsequently fired. What did it crash into? Was it the land? 😂 ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2543 "2021-01-28T19:54:33Z")
I could never work on a submarine, much too claustrophobic. Is it true you have to share a bunk and sleep in shifts? ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2544 "2021-01-28T19:54:55Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Thank you! Luckily, I wasn’t on watch during the crashing. I was asleep and almost thrown out of my bunk. Those who were on watch at the time were subsequently fired. Out a torpedo tube, one hopes. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2545 "2021-01-28T20:02:59Z")
A 50,000 ton Turkish freighter. > **[US submarine collides with cargo ship](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2005/9/5/us-submarine-collides-with-cargo-ship)** > > A nuclear-powered US Navy submarine has collided with a Turkish cargo ship in the Arabian Gulf. [http://bubbleheads.blogspot.com/2005/10/uss-philadelphia-collision-what.html](http://bubbleheads.blogspot.com/2005/10/uss-philadelphia-collision-what.html) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2546 "2021-01-28T20:03:48Z")
Junior enlisted sometimes have to share a bunk and sleep in shifts, but I had the good fortune and privilege to be an officer. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2547 "2021-01-28T20:27:46Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > A 50,000 ton Turkish freighter. Careless. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Junior enlisted sometimes have to share a bunk and sleep in shifts, but I had the good fortune and privilege to be an officer. Doesn’t sound very pleasant. Why did you want to join the military anyway? Seems kinda out of character. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=126) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=128)