# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 132
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2628 "2021-01-30T15:41:52Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > That just shows how _good_ they are. > 😉 Said another way … If someone like you or I with good writing skills and a recognizable style were trying to sock, then doing our best to write in ignorant / pidgin / really bad ESL would probably be the most effective camouflage. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2629 "2021-01-30T16:13:21Z")
[Jay\_Jay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jay_jay/summary) is banned for socking. j (no relation) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2630 "2021-01-30T17:02:13Z")
> [@Manwich](#): > > Anyone who is not a liberal is undisguisable from a troll. > > We are straight forwards towards the dope of truth. I’m not a liberal. I was pretty conservative when I started here over 10 years ago. I’m not now, but I’m also not a liberal. I’ve been accused of various things (and probably guilty of some) but not trolling that I can ever remember. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2631 "2021-01-30T17:16:48Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > That said, he also seems to think FigNorton’s is a trolly avatar, despite being a variation on yours and naita’s, and the type of thing I’ve done elsewhere. It’s fun to play around with the default avatars. FigNorton’s avatar is… very dope savvy, like a very specific jab at those who were moaning about how profiles even need to have an avatar or they get a generic “letter” avatar generated by the forum. But more to the point, he seems to have formed some very quick opinions of certain posters, and even commented at length about a particular mod in ATMB. Almost as if he has some history with the people being commented on. It’s not unlike **Enjoy\_Slurm** ’s apparent familiarity with you, for instance. As to the stuff about photos as an avatar. It’s not _just_ that it’s a photo, but one that seems poorly cropped (as if from a group photo) or grainy. **Monstro** ’s for instance. Which isn’t to say I think **Monstro** is a troll (they’ve been here long enough), but then again, I’m not sure it really matters when one is a _sincere_ rampant transphobe. None of this is to say that it’s an “all trolls do this” kind of thing, or even “all posters with these hallmarks are trolls” but more like a series of venn diagrams with a whole lot of overlap with the troll circle. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2632 "2021-01-30T17:30:47Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > If a head shot avatar is a sign of trolling we’ve got a lot of sleeper trolls amongst us right now Mine is not me. But I will not be surprised if a few people here can identify it (bunch of nerds!) ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2633 "2021-01-30T17:37:03Z")
Surely You’re Joking… ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2634 "2021-01-30T17:40:08Z")
See! I love this place. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2635 "2021-01-30T17:51:05Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Surely You’re Joking… I am joking, but don’t call me Mr. Feynman ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2636 "2021-01-30T19:23:36Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Surely You’re Joking… And by golly as soon as I read that I remembered seeing that iconic picture of Dr. Feynman on wiki. But before that, I had no hope of recognizing who that was. ---
**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2637 "2021-01-30T19:53:11Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I’m not a liberal. I was pretty conservative when I started here over 10 years ago. I’m not now, but I’m also not a liberal. We have unrepentant members of the US military here. Occam’s rasor says they are sexually aroused by the idea of dead Muslims. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2638 "2021-01-30T20:35:55Z")
> [@Manwich](#): > > We have unrepentant members of the US military here. Occam’s rasor says they are sexually aroused by the idea of dead Muslims. _razor_ And whatever you think you are doing, you’re doing it in the wrong thread. The correct one is the one you’ll start called “Manwich tries to troll”. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2639 "2021-01-30T20:40:25Z")
Dude, way too unsubtle. You were doing so well, too. ---
**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2640 "2021-01-30T20:44:12Z")
Point is, that’s the name of the thread and this forum is for shit posting right? That’s what it looks like. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2641 "2021-01-30T20:50:25Z")
> [@Manwich](#): > > Point is, that’s the name of the thread and this forum is for shit posting right? That’s what it looks like… The idea is that you’re supposed to make _the other guy_ look like an asshole, not yourself. You’ve destroyed any slim bit of credibility you ever might have had, not that it was ever much. You just can’t claim to be a decent person after a post like that. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2642 "2021-01-30T21:01:19Z")
The purpose of _this_ thread is for the “normies” to keep score of the jerks & trolls elsewhere. If ~~you~~ somebody wants to try to be a jerk or troll this is the category where ~~you’ll~~ they’ll get the most rope to hang ~~yourself~~ themselves with, but this is not the right thread. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2643 "2021-01-30T21:07:02Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > If ~~you~~ somebody wants to try to be a jerk or troll this is the category where ~~you’ll~~ they’ll get the most rope to hang ~~yourself~~ themselves with, but this is not the right thread. Well, I mean, if someone really wants to do all that, I guess there is no “wrong” thread to do it in… ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2644 "2021-01-30T21:08:09Z")
> [@Manwich](#): > > That’s what it looks like. Look harder. Harder! Harder! Oh, no, now you’ve got troll sebum on your monitor! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2645 "2021-01-30T21:11:13Z")
Right. The purpose of this thread is to point and laugh at trolls posting elsewhere, since we can’t do it in other forums. Coming into this thread to troll misses the point. (Admittedly this thread is so attractive to trolls that sometimes it seems like a roach motel.) ---
**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2646 "2021-01-30T21:27:00Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > The idea is that you’re supposed to make _the other guy_ look like an asshole, not yourself. That sounds bad. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2647 "2021-01-30T21:51:13Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > (Admittedly this thread is so attractive to trolls that sometimes it seems like a roach motel.) Excuse me? This thread is home to some of us. At least have the decency to describe it as a roach-infested apartment complex. Or townhome, even! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=131) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=133)