# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2788 "2021-02-24T13:20:31Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Ugh. Disagree. I don’t think shandies need to made at all. Sweet, watered-down beer? Pass.

The designated driver has to drink _something_, though, don’t they?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2789 "2021-02-24T15:53:36Z")

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> [@tricoteuse](#):
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> Please note I never insulted the Caesar, people who like Caesars, or Canada.

I did! 😛

It’s a hill I’m willing to get slightly scuffed on, too. Caesars are an Abomination Unto Nuggan. But in the interests of International Co-Operation and Unity, I’ll confess that not only do my Bloody Marys contain enough horseradish to choke, well, a horse, but I also make them with V-8. I know, the shame!

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2790 "2021-02-24T16:09:02Z")

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But to be fair, everything is an abomination unto Nuggan. But I would be happy to drink one of your Bloody Marys.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2791 "2021-02-24T16:11:25Z")

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I’m not insulting Caesars. I’m just insulting Clamato. But to be fair, I don’t like regular tomato juice either, so combining it with clam is just making an unpleasant thing moreso.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2792 "2021-02-24T16:18:27Z")

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Funny, I thought I clicked to view a thread in the Pit. And here it seems I’ve been redirected to the Cafe Society.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2793 "2021-02-24T16:21:02Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Funny, I thought I clicked to view a thread in the Pit. And here it seems I’ve been redirected to the Cafe Society. -

BBQ is cooking.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2794 "2021-02-24T16:31:06Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Funny, I thought I clicked to view a thread in the Pit. And here it seems I’ve been redirected to the Cafe Society.

Clamato is just a way of trolling people who like drinks that taste good. There - I said it. 🤢

On a more serious note, an observation about social media trolling in general. On my FB account my profile picture is not a picture of me but rather a bit of abstract artwork my daughter drew when she was younger. I’ve noted that the only people who have ever objected to it - and claimed that it was an indication that I must be a troll - are obvious trolls themselves with fake profiles. Usually when I point out that anyone can take a picture off the internet and pretend to be that person, they drop out of the thread, but the fact that so many of them have done this - and no one else - makes me wonder if they have a script or guidebook for this sort of thing. Just a passing thought.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2795 "2021-02-24T16:37:48Z")

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At least you are using your real picture here on SDMB.

On an unrelated note, do you think you might try moisturizing a bit?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2796 "2021-02-24T16:40:26Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> At least you are using your real picture here on SDMB.

I don’t even smoke.

(FTR, that’s a [Van Gogh student work](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_of_a_Skeleton_with_Burning_Cigarette) - the assignment was to paint a skeleton, and he added a cigarette because he was bored. That Vincent - he so wacky.)

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2797 "2021-02-24T17:23:52Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@k9bfriender](#):
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> > At least you are using your real picture here on SDMB.
> 
> I don’t even smoke.
> 
> (FTR, that’s a [Van Gogh student work](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_of_a_Skeleton_with_Burning_Cigarette) - the assignment was to paint a skeleton, and he added a cigarette because he was bored. That Vincent - he so wacky.) &nbsp;

When Van Gogh was painting your portrait, did you realize how famous he was going to be?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2798 "2021-02-24T18:41:28Z")

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> [@tricoteuse](#):
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> Gee, you have to love that Canadian politeness, eh?  
> …  
> I kindly suggest you find a ladder and get the fuck over yourself.

To be serious for a moment, it appears that you are humour impaired.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2799 "2021-02-24T18:56:40Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Saturday we’ll be having our weekly cocktail adventure, and Caesars will be the _experimente du semane_ . Thank you!

Enjoy! Looking forward to your report.

I have a bottle of premixed Old Fashioneds chilling in my fridge because of you’all’s postings about your delightful-sounding cocktail hours.

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2800 "2021-02-24T19:18:59Z")

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For the first, you seem to be sarcasm impaired, eh? 😛

For the second, it was hilarious the first time I heard it in grade school, therefore it’s still funny.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2801 "2021-02-24T19:24:31Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Saturday we’ll be having our weekly cocktail adventure, and Caesars will be the _experimente du semane_ . Thank you!

Enjoy! Hopefully you can find Mott’s Clamato. I don’t know if you’ll be able to find what I called Mott’s Caesar spice, but it’s actually called Mott’s Caesar Rimmer. I use the “original” type. For the lazy (like me) you can just sprinkle a little over the top of the drink instead of rimming the glass.

The other essentials are supposed to be Tabasco and Worcestershire and, optionally, horseradish. I had been buying premixed Caesars in cans at the liquor store, and recently switched to buying non-alcoholic single-serving cans and adding my own vodka because I thought it tasted better. I realized later that the non-alcoholic stuff wasn’t a Caesar mix at all, it was just plain clamato (both are made by Mott’s). I guess the moral of the story is, go easy on the Tabasco and Worcestershire until you know how much of it you prefer. These days I seem to prefer none at all. But the Caesar rimmer is an essential part of the authentic experience, and so is something like a celery stalk plunked in the glass. Don’t forget: lots of ice, lots of vodka!

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2802 "2021-02-24T19:26:28Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Mott’s Caesar Rimmer.

Tastes like ass.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2803 "2021-02-24T19:41:01Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Enjoy! Hopefully you can find Mott’s Clamato. I don’t know if you’ll be able to find what I called Mott’s Caesar spice, but it’s actually called Mott’s Caesar Rimmer.

Bought the Clamato today. That’s bog-standard stuff at US grocery stores everywhere I’ve lived. Admittedly they only have a few bottles of the stuff in the giant aisle-o-ten-thousand-juices.

OTOH, dedicated Caesar seasoning is a no-hoper. But I got this recipe online and have “Montreal” steak seasoning already. I like my Bloody Mary’s with some heat & tang so this should be good. Let the experiments begin.

I got this recipe online:

> Caesar  
> For rimming:
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> - ½ teaspoon celery salt
> - ½ teaspoon garlic salt
> - ½ teaspoon steak seasoning
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> For drinking:
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> - ¼ ounce lime juice (from about 1/2 a lime), and more for coating the rim of the glass
> - 2 ounces vodka
> - 2 dashes Worcestershire sauce
> - 2 dashes hot sauce
> - 4 ounces Mott’s Clamato or other tomato-clam juice

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2804 "2021-02-24T19:53:45Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Caesar Rimmer

[![](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-d7_gLtUIxYs/Tla6lp-DrXI/AAAAAAAAAz8/piZtlrQTa24/s1600/337845.jpg) ](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-d7_gLtUIxYs/Tla6lp-DrXI/AAAAAAAAAz8/piZtlrQTa24/s1600/337845.jpg)

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2805 "2021-02-24T19:54:40Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Tastes like ass.

_Et tu, Glute?_

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2806 "2021-02-24T19:55:28Z")

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I checked the ingredients list on the Mott’s rimmer and it’s completely unhelpful. It just says “salt, spices, sugar, dehydrated onion”. Your recipe is probably a fine approximation. Why they put sugar in it I have no idea.

Taking a sniff of the jar, the distinct sense is of celery salt.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2807 "2021-02-24T19:59:53Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Et tu, Glute?

Damn near killed 'em!

(Okay, I’ll stop now)

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