# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 149
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2968 "2021-03-09T04:03:41Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Unlike TASS and the DPRK News Service, both CBC and BBC have competition. In the CBC’s case, that comes from CTV and Global, both private networks; in addition to the Canadian Press wire service, and private reporting from newspapers. If the CBC says (and this is totally fictional), “A Brighter Future Awaits as a Result of Government Budget,” its competition would likely respond with, “Your wallet will take a hit: higher taxes now.” In other words, the CBC must report news fairly, because its private competition will make it look like an untrustworthy jackass if it doesn’t. > > That’s why I’m saying that EastUmpqua is really stupid. He or she cannot realize this, clings to his or her belief that “government-funded” equates to “government-run,” and does not take into account that private competition can demolish any pro-government argument if a government-funded news outlet tries to “adjust” the news to the government’s taste. TASS and the DPRK News Service have no such competition. Well, I agree, but it’s much more than that. Commercial media is necessarily biased in two respects: it has to pander to the interests of its sponsors, and it has to strive for profit. The latter means that if reporting on the Kardashians instead of reporting on important policy news is going to attract more clicks or more eyeballs, then that’s what they do. Same reason they sensationalize stories. Public broadcasting has no such demands, and has a legally binding contractual arms-length relationship with its government funding. The distrust of “government-funded” broadcasting is just the quintessential American distrust of government – same reason they distrust universal health care – despite the fact that both work very well in every civilized country in the world except the USA. And this distrust of government, ironically, supports exactly those policies (like unlimited political spending, and opposition to public broadcasting) that encourages the kind of corrupt governance that they claim to fear. So yes, @EastUmpqua is at least an idiot, but also very probably a troll. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2969 "2021-03-09T04:23:12Z")
I just know **EastUmpqua** as a Trump supporting poster. Though I’ll admit that I tend to assume troll by default for those posters, since Trump is also a troll. ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2970 "2021-03-10T00:19:12Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I just know **EastUmpqua** as a Trump supporting poster. My political beliefs are more complicated than that lable. > [@wolfpup](#): > > So yes, @EastUmpqua is at least an idiot, but also very probably a troll. Hey bud. I like SD, and care about my reputation. I learn a ton from threads I read. I mean no disrespect to you or SD in my postings. And I’ve been learning better manners. But ok, I’ll own ‘idiot’. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2971 "2021-03-10T00:23:19Z")
> [@EastUmpqua](#): > > My political beliefs are more complicated than that lable. Northern Conservative Trumptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Trumpist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912? ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2972 "2021-03-10T00:26:45Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Northern Conservative Trumptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Trumpist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912? OK, I admit my political beliefs aren’t this complicated… ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2973 "2021-03-10T00:34:20Z")
Oh, that’s good! (Emo fan) ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2974 "2021-03-10T01:08:03Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Northern Conservative Trumptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Trumpist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912? Ok. now I get it… I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?” He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912. I said, “Die, heretic!” And I pushed him over. > **[Emo Philips - Wikiquote](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Emo_Philips)** ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2975 "2021-03-10T01:14:47Z")
The People’s Judean Front will not be denied! ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2976 "2021-03-10T01:35:35Z")
Thats good. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/a0BpfwazhUA/hqdefault.jpg "Life of Brian - scene 3 - People's front of Judea") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0BpfwazhUA) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2977 "2021-03-10T01:48:45Z")
He’s not the President, he’s a very naughty boy. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2978 "2021-03-10T01:59:51Z")
Listen, Proud Boyz displaying sharp implements in the Capitol building is no basis for a system of a government! Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical male bonding ceremony! I went ‘round sayin’ I was Emperor, just because some painted bugger lobbed a tomahawk at me, they’d put me away! ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2979 "2021-03-20T17:16:14Z")
**Red** who joined 22 hours ago just started a perfectly innocent thread about Michael Jackson and why he loved children so much. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2980 "2021-03-20T17:24:54Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > **Red** who joined 22 hours ago just started a perfectly innocent thread about Michael Jackson and why he loved children so much. - > > 🙄 And now one about Jesus and children. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2981 "2021-03-20T17:30:15Z")
Yes, but, who doesn’t enjoy an illiterate post that’s actually a well crafted ‘straight line’? Also, RETARD STRENGTH!!! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2982 "2021-03-20T17:53:35Z")
So y’all are going to make me go hunting for that incipient train wreck, is that it? I see how it is. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2983 "2021-03-20T18:08:53Z")
Jesus and children is in general questions. Seems inappropriate as I don’t see how it can be answered, but the Mod doesn’t agree. M. Jackson is in IMHO ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2984 "2021-03-20T18:10:14Z")
Ta. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2985 "2021-03-20T18:11:41Z")
The usual _modus operandi_ in such cases is for them to become even more unhinged with the passage of time. We shall see. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2986 "2021-03-20T18:19:04Z")
He/she also posted in general questions asking “Do people with Down’s syndrome have incredible strength?” ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2987 "2021-03-20T20:20:20Z")
> [@Latimera](#): > > Jesus and children is in general questions. Seems inappropriate as I don’t see how it can be answered, but the Mod doesn’t agree. Yeah, it’s impossible to answer without getting into some subjectivity. It’s the Bible—different religious traditions will interpret it differently. Even what I said was an argument, not purely factual. And now that I know about the Michael Jackson thread, I’m starting to suspect Red is trying to come up with some religious argument around pedophilia. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=148) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=150)