# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 165
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3290 "2021-05-02T10:45:47Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > As I’ve said before, there has never been a true libertarian society in history (for good reason), - There was an attempt in the city of [Grafton, NH.](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a34387528/new-hampshire-libertarian-town-bears/) It went…poorly. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3291 "2021-05-02T13:26:33Z")
At least this one is aptly named: [EmbarrassingDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmbarrassingDad)… # [The bulls in rodeos are so mean](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bulls-in-rodeos-are-so-mean/941199) > [@The bulls in rodeos are so mean](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-bulls-in-rodeos-are-so-mean/941199/1): > > Surely that is due to abuse? Why do they hate people so badly? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3292 "2021-05-02T17:13:14Z")
[Is D’Asshole headed toward a flameout?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-lawmaker-goes-full-on-drunk/941187/16) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3293 "2021-05-02T17:18:02Z")
The brand new guy in GQ asking why his butthole is so brown and how he can bleach it and we should google to find images of the condition _might_ be a legit poster, but stands watching. (The thread on hyperpigmentation, not going to link to it.) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3294 "2021-05-02T18:01:36Z")
Seems the mods decided that a bit of corn would be good for his condition. EDIT: nvm, was just moved to a different forum. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3295 "2021-05-03T01:36:51Z")
I’ve heard of corn-holing, but that’s a bit rough on the newbie. But not one cob less than he deserves. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3296 "2021-05-03T01:41:05Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > EDIT: nvm, was just moved to a different forum. Too bad. There is now some risk that I might accidentally encounter it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3297 "2021-05-03T12:51:16Z")
Am proud of the more prominent conservatives on these Boards and how they approached my Nahployment thread- some outdated arguments, but pretty respectful to the topic and those being discussed. Until Jasmine here decided to make the classic ‘We should starve these people out who refuse to sell 40 hours of their lives for $300’ argument: > [@The Nahployment 'Crisis'](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-nahployment-crisis/941117/121): > > A lot of people are still genuinely afraid to be that close to the public. Others, however, have taken advantage of extended unemployment benefits that make it feasible not to work. To me, that means that, with the nation opening up again, it’s time to stop making it financially feasible not to work. The main demographic for fast food employees is late teens and twenties. If they can go out and party without masks, they can go to work and earn some money. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3298 "2021-05-03T14:35:50Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Until Jasmine here decided to make the classic ‘We should starve these people out who refuse to sell 40 hours of their lives for $300’ argument: That is strictly YOUR interpretation of my comments. I believe that people should work for their living IF POSSIBLE. I’m not ashamed of that position. Oh, and another thing, sir. The fact that you posted this insult in THIS thread indicates that are accusing me of being a troll. That is WAY out of line. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3299 "2021-05-03T14:39:06Z")
Feel free to start another thread to discuss where in America how it is ‘financially feasible not to work’, because I am fascinated by this concept, being totally unfamiliar with our too-robust social safety net. Can’t wait to claim my ‘don’t wanna work’ bennies! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3300 "2021-05-03T14:41:56Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Feel free to start another thread … Feel free not to speak to me again. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3301 "2021-05-03T14:43:43Z")
You entered _my_ thread, Jasmine, then responded to _my_ post in this thread. And feel free to speak to me- that’s why we are here, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3302 "2021-05-03T15:18:08Z")
(flounce) I’m surprised that Jasmine did not ask to speak to your manager. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3303 "2021-05-03T15:55:52Z")
Indeed, some serious Karen vibes there. I don’t care if people are insulted by the “Karen” designation. Flame away. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3304 "2021-05-03T16:50:04Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > I don’t care if people are insulted by the “Karen” designation. ISTM only those actually named “Karen” and do not behave like the stereotype have a legitimate claim to feel insulted. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3305 "2021-05-03T17:14:25Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > ISTM only those actually named “Karen” and do not behave like the stereotype have a legitimate claim to feel insulted. First they came for Karen but I wasn’t carin’ 'cause I wasn’t Karen… ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3306 "2021-05-03T17:17:29Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > First they came for Karen but I wasn’t carin’ 'cause I wasn’t Karen… Silence!.. Derr-wood. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3307 "2021-05-03T17:49:33Z")
Jasmine certainly isn’t taking a position I’d defend, but it’s just a position that differs from yours. It’s hardly trolling. You know those whiners who say the only reason people call them trolls is because they disagree? Stuff like this just gives them ammunition. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3308 "2021-05-03T19:13:40Z")
Oh, people complain about posters in this thread all the time without thinking they are really trolls. I assumed that’s what this was. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3309 "2021-05-04T06:52:01Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Jasmine certainly isn’t taking a position I’d defend, but it’s just a position that differs from yours. It’s hardly trolling. I see your point, but I’m not sure I agree. I’d argue it’s not _just_ a different opinion. It’s a position that the OP had already covered in his OP, explaining why that position didn’t actually work. Rather than arguing against that or any of the other arguments in the thread, it seemed to just ignore them. And then what it proposes is rather shitty. While the pandemic is still ongoing, let’s reduce the amount of benefits so that people have to go back to work and put up with the greater risk, without greater compensation. Risk that will spread to others, too. While we’re this close to being able to stop the pandemic, let’s make things worse for everyone! I totally get why @JohnT would not see it as a legitimate attempt to debate the topic at hand. It has the smell of a post meant to stir up passions and not to legitimately debate the topic—the proverbial turd in a punchbowl, if you will. I think he made a good case that he’s okay with disagreement in general (i.e. mentioning that he’s happy with other conservative posts), as long as it actually engages with the topic. So I don’t think your accusation is accurate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=164) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=166)