# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3350 "2021-05-12T19:46:31Z")

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Both posts are innocuous. What makes you suspicious of anything other than someone who just discovered the board?

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3351 "2021-05-12T19:49:54Z")

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Probably word count to read time…

~Max

ETA: They aren’t long posts so I don’t get it, either.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3352 "2021-05-12T19:53:06Z")

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Well, both have a whiff of the wind-up about them, I would say - but you may be right, time will tell. As I said, _one for the watch list._

I would say, though, that as a rule of thumb -

> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> Joined 8 hours ago, two topics, one post, four minutes read time.

- is a warning sign.

j

ETA - how could I be ninja’d on _that_?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3353 "2021-05-12T20:47:04Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> Yeah, looks promising. Been here 1 day, 1 post, 2 threads created, same subject matter.

I’m looking forward to the one where they ask about whether you’d lend a hand to someone who told you they were drowning, except that you were there and you saw what they did (you saw it with your own two eyes) and because you know where they’ve been you know it’s all been a pack of lies.

doofdoof doofdoof doofdoof doofdoof doodoodoof

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3354 "2021-05-12T20:50:11Z")

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If they start posting on one of @femmejean’s pet topics…

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3355 "2021-05-12T21:41:17Z")

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Thanks for the heads up. I’ll keep an eye out.

And I’ll remember, don’t worry. How could I ever forget?

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3356 "2021-05-12T21:53:03Z")

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Wasn’t there a ridiculous hypothetical posted once about killing a child in a car? I can’t remember it.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3357 "2021-05-12T22:01:40Z")

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Yeah, something about your kid is trapped in a car, the fire is creeping ever closer, and your choice was to watch your kid burn to death or shoot them. Probably an interesting question to someone who doesn’t relate to other people in a “normal” way, but really disturbing for everyone else.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3358 "2021-05-12T22:02:06Z")

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I remember reading that one.

> [@Would you shoot child and kill your child in this situation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-shoot-child-and-kill-your-child-in-this-situation/277759):
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> You are driving out in middle of the country. There is nobody else around. Your back left tire blows and you lose control of the car and it hits a tree. There is a lot of damage to the car. Your seven year-old child is trapped by the dashboard crushing your child. You can’t get your child out. The accident also caused a fire. There is no way to stop the fire. Your child is going to burn to death. Your child is also aware of the situation was not knocked out by the accident. You have a hand gun w…

~Max

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3359 "2021-05-12T22:02:21Z")

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Curse all you ninjas.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3360 "2021-05-12T22:03:58Z")

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The first response is all you really need to read in that thread. It’s all downhill after that.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3361 "2021-05-12T22:07:53Z")

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Nah, #31 on is great.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3362 "2021-05-12T22:49:32Z")

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> [@Would you shoot child and kill your child in this situation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-you-shoot-child-and-kill-your-child-in-this-situation/277759/31):
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> Here’s an alternate hypothetical for you: A crashed bus teeters precariously on an overpass, partly blocking the commuter rail line. You can push the bus to the east, and it will fall off the overpass to crush an minority orphanage, or you can push the bus to the west, where it will fall and destroy a home for the cheerful mentally disabled, or you can leave it, in which case a train full of concerned environmentalists and civil rights activists will be derailed and careen into a series of refinery storage tanks, creating a huge fire. Above it all, an anal-retentive angel with a penchant for symmetry waits, eager to rebalance the equation any time you come up with a justification for a choice. Don’t like orphans? The orphanage is now an animal shelter. Don’t care about the disabled? It’s now a veteran’s home for Medal of Honor winners. Don’t like environmentalists and activists? The train is now full of AIDS researchers and Nobel Peace-prize winners.

Oh, lord that is funny. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3363 "2021-05-12T23:09:05Z")

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I remember a version of this dilemma happening near the end of the movie “The Mist”. Anyone recall what happened when the father decided to use the “gun” solution?

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**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3364 "2021-05-12T23:13:30Z")

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^^^yup. I remember that.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3365 "2021-05-12T23:16:36Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I remember a version of this dilemma happening near the end of the movie “The Mist”.

Doesn’t this dilemma happen in every zombie movie? Sometimes with shooting yourself, but often shooting somebody else before they get eaten.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3366 "2021-05-12T23:18:10Z")

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My point is that in real life you don’t know at the time that you can’t get your kid out, and you don’t know at that time what the fire will do. What you DO know at the time is that the child will most certainly die if shot.

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**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3367 "2021-05-12T23:19:57Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Doesn’t this dilemma happen in every zombie movie? Sometimes with shooting yourself, but often shooting somebody else before they get eaten.

Well, if I’m ever close to being eaten by zombie, I hope someone shoots me,

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3368 "2021-05-12T23:22:21Z")

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I would prefer they shoot the zombie.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3369 "2021-05-12T23:27:53Z")

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I don’t get this. Everyone is always, “don’t let me turn into a zombie!” But really, would it be so bad? You go from living in terror every second to just hanging out, shuffling around, and eating. I could get into that lifestyle.

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