# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3490 "2021-06-01T20:37:27Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> But it’s far more complex than that… The great majority of us secretly agree with him, but our deep psychological flaws, our _need to be loved_ , are preventing us from speaking up in support. Peer pressure and weak-minded obedience to authority are leading us to _torture_ him in this Pitting, in a recapitulation of the Milgram experiment.

Yeah, this was weird

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3491 "2021-06-01T20:47:00Z")

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Or, people could just let it go. The guy is a long time poster who has mentioned he has medical problems. We don’t know what the last year has been like for him. So he’s having a meltdown and everyone needs to pile on, plus he gets mentioned in the troll thread. Maybe you could just show a little compassion for a fellow doper and let it go. Just because it’s in the pit doesn’t mean you _have_ to be the biggest asshole you can.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3492 "2021-06-01T21:29:09Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> Or, people could just let it go. The guy is a long time poster who has mentioned he has medical problems.

That’s all very noble, but there’s only person who won’t “let it go”. Unless a poster asks us to do otherwise, I’m going to treat their posts on their merits, treat them as an equal participant, not patronize them. Whatever’s going on, I don’t think it’s helpful to give someone false feedback that what they are saying is perfectly coherent and insightful, when it’s clearly not.

If he’s just a bit off this week because he’s not well, it’s not like anyone’s going to do anything but shrug this off and forget it.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3493 "2021-06-01T21:56:26Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> That’s all very noble, but there’s only person who won’t “let it go”.

What about all the other people in the thread? Are they letting it go? They dragged it to this thread for some reason, even tho he’s clearly not a troll. Seems it’s not him who can’t let it go.

> [@Riemann](#):
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> Whatever’s going on, I don’t think it’s helpful to give someone false feedback that what they are saying is perfectly coherent and insightful, when it’s clearly not.

I never asked anyone to give false feedback, nor am I noble. What’s next, social justice warrior? White knighting?

Just leave him alone instead of prolonging the thread so you can get a few more hits on him. It is _literally_ the least you could do for a fellow poster who’s having a meltdown. Really, there is no need for you to personally correct everything you see as wrong on the internet. You know, that whole not be a jerk thing everyone talks about. Just because you can be a jerk in the Pit, doesn’t mean you have to take it out on someone who is experiencing problems.

> [@Riemann](#):
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> If he’s just a bit off this week because he’s not well, it’s not like anyone’s going to do anything but shrug this off and forget it.

It’s not like he has a cold for a couple of days. The sooner people stop poking him, the sooner the thread dies, the sooner people forget about it. If posters keep posting in that thread, no one will forget about it. Five years from now someone will start a thread about the time that guy had a meltdown over acronyms.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3494 "2021-06-01T21:59:46Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> That’s all very noble, but there’s only person who won’t “let it go”

He’s said this

> [@I Pit ILMVI for Complaining Incessantly About Acronyms](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/175):
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> And naturally, after this enlightening thread I don’t feel like getting into it anymore either.

after which you’ve said this

> [@I Pit ILMVI for Complaining Incessantly About Acronyms](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/182):
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> With any thread, I guess you can either screw in or screw out. ILMVI’s preferred approach appears to be a hammer.

If he wanted to “let it go”, what would he have to say?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3495 "2021-06-01T22:07:37Z")

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That he didn’t mind not getting the last word in.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3496 "2021-06-01T22:09:29Z")

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Doesn’t seem to work for anyone else in that thread.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3497 "2021-06-01T22:15:52Z")

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And after the post from @Heffalump_and_Roo, I have to say Holy fuck @Riemann you are really an ass. In a direct reply to you, he named his meds. Way easier to google than a three letter acronym. He even thanked you for your help in covid threads because he’s dealing with immune system problems. Not “a bad day.” Yet you still feel the need to teach him a lesson in the pit, and talk behind his back in another thread, I guess just because you are that kind of guy. Jeez, the guy doesn’t like acronyms, it’s not like he fucked your mom or kicked your dog. Be the better person you think you are.

> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> Doesn’t seem to work for anyone else in that thread.

No shit. A pile on sure brings all the assholes out in the open. It’s like they can’t help themselves. They see a chance to treat someone like shit and they are all in. Over fucking acronyms.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3498 "2021-06-01T22:35:29Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> Over fucking acronyms.

I believe we can call these “FA’s”

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3499 "2021-06-01T22:38:33Z")

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We have to make it three letters or it doesn’t count. I should have said “mother fucking acronyms.” Yes, MFA scans much better.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3500 "2021-06-01T22:52:24Z")

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Master of Fine Arts? I give up with all these acronyms!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3501 "2021-06-01T22:52:27Z")

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Just don’t confuse them with the assholes. Or do, if it reads better.

Whatever.

Hey, Ritter wasn’t there when I posted.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3502 "2021-06-01T23:00:02Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> A pile on sure brings all the assholes out in the open.

Well, now you’ve hurt _my_ feelings. But I’m not on any medication, so please feel free to continue your rant.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3503 "2021-06-01T23:10:51Z")

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This is a bit out of context. Riemann was riffing off of someone else’s typo.

And, yes, mordecaiB you’re working hard for the “White Knight” badge. ILMV1 was in the thread and handling his own business, feel free to dance on that pity pole though. He’s going to be fine, and, yes, the community will be there for him if he wants us.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3504 "2021-06-02T01:02:41Z")

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Pretend-Democrat and racist dickbag **Dalej42** continues his never ending war against black Americans with this [remarkable piece of dumbassery](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-worst-freshman-class-ever-in-the-usa-house-of-representatives/943374). Useless piece of maggot shit.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3505 "2021-06-02T01:36:42Z")

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Wow! A good ole fashioned concern troll. Don’t see those much anymore.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3506 "2021-06-02T01:54:14Z")

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That’s no way to speak about a former president of Haiti.

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-more-miserable-country-than-the-central-african-republic/232032

~Max

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3507 "2021-06-02T02:10:21Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Wow! A good ole fashioned concern troll. Don’t see those much anymore.

He sees _himself_ as a liberal who reads conservative media.

> **dalej42** posted in thread “_Ask the conservative asshole_”, 2015
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> "Sincere question: What do you read on a regular basis?
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> I’m left of center but I read National Review on a regular basis. I also subscribe to Barron’s and read the Wall Street Journal."

~Max

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3508 "2021-06-02T05:26:11Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Well, now you’ve hurt _my_ feelings. But I’m not on any medication, so please feel free to continue your rant.

No surprise you recognized yourself in that. Assholes are often proud of being assholes. I notice no one else thought I was talking about them. As for meds, ask your doctor why you choose to be an asshole. About acronyms. Maybe he can get you some suppositories.

I doubt you have feelings because you have seem to have zero empathy. Since you didn’t have the smarts to follow in the footsteps of your namesake, it’s good you have a backup job of Chief Bloviator of Correcting People Who Are Wrong On the Internet. About acronyms. Keep up the good work. You’ll make the internet safe for the rest of us shortly. You, truly, are a man among men. Thank you for your service.

> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> And, yes, mordecaiB you’re working hard for the “White Knight” badge. ILMV1 was in the thread and handling his own business, feel free to dance on that pity pole though. He’s going to be fine, and, yes, the community will be there for him if he wants us.

If I was white knighting I would have posted in the other thread, you know, the one about acronyms. I never said a word about him until some asshole dragged him into this thread, where I’m not sure he ever posted, to call him a troll simply because they disagree with him. About acronyms.

I’m sure glad you can get use of your Donald Trump Online School of Therapy degree. Your “let’s hurt him now and maybe we can help him later” plan is a winner. A perfect genius plan. Did you even read what you wrote? Really? Kick him around for no reason and if he comes back asking for help in the future you’ll be there for him? I’m sure he finds that comforting. Why not act like a normal person now and stop kicking him? Maybe then he would have no need for help in the future that you inflicted today.

> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Wow! A good ole fashioned concern troll. Don’t see those much anymore.

He’s been a troll from day one. The concern troll is his whole act. If dopers would just ignore people like him, rather than think they are scoring points, we wouldn’t have long term trolls like him around. It’s like trolls are just too irresistible.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3509 "2021-06-02T05:29:08Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> No surprise you recognized yourself in that. Assholes are often proud of being assholes. I notice no one else thought I was talking about them.

Well, you _did_ specifically call him out… I certainly thought that entire rant was generally aimed at him myself.

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