# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 192
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3830 "2021-06-11T20:16:08Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > And I just noticed from that thread that stucco’s posting was not always so innocuous. A warning here for calling somebody - guess what? A racist. I did not notice that both socks were participating in the Tebow thread, and both were causing trouble with attempts to derail the thread, with at least one personal attack (which led to an actual warning). I was tempted to respond to either of them but they were so off-topic that I didn’t want to participate in any hijacks. Wow, I can’t believe I didn’t notice they were the same clowns (or I should say, clown). ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3831 "2021-06-11T20:22:14Z")
For clarification of @Darren_Garrison 's link, I was a bit confused until I realized there a full strip linked in the text just below the single frame. > **[Scalzification - Penny Arcade](https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/12/14/scalzification)** > > Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3832 "2021-06-11T20:45:13Z")
It would have helped to link to the actual full strip, then it wouldn’t have seemed weird. > **[Scalzification - Penny Arcade](https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/12/14/scalzification)** > > Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3833 "2021-06-11T20:53:36Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Has a newish poster who starts a button-pushing thread ever become a worthwhile member? I can’t recall ever seeing one and “newish poster who starts a button-pushing thread” is my go-to troll detector. **Max\_S** started out looking like a dickish troll to me, but (while he’s often still annoyingly Vulcan in threads that don’t need it) he’s OK. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3834 "2021-06-11T20:58:26Z")
I don’t have anyone on ignore, but Max is the only one I’ve considered, precisely because he’s _not_ a troll - but it’s just too tiring and frustrating to get drawn into his posts which are generally both hypertechnical and complete nonsense. I find him reminiscent of an A.I. that has been programmed (albeit poorly) with logic and debating techniques; but has not been trained _at all_ on the dataset that is reality. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3835 "2021-06-11T21:01:21Z")
IIRC, in the very early days of the Pit – back when **Lynn** was in charge and suspensions had yet to be implemented – one temporary ban was the result of someone who kept pushing her button by repeatedly posting ASCII art. I don’t remember who it was but they eventually became a worthwhile member. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3836 "2021-06-11T21:10:28Z")
Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3837 "2021-06-11T21:10:50Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > . I don’t remember who it was but they eventually became a worthwhile member. Was it this? > [@Tom Cruise, fuck you!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tom-cruise-fuck-you/223882/11): > > " just to confuse the shit out of people!" translates into “Just be a jerk” IMO. Do either of you wish to retain your posting privileges on the SDMB? If you do, you will NOT continue to annoy or confuse people. BTW, no more large pieces of ASCII art, either. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3838 "2021-06-11T21:13:49Z")
Ah, yep. @Ilsa_Lund was the one. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3839 "2021-06-11T21:15:48Z")
Apparently, they didn’t stick around much longer after that. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3840 "2021-06-11T21:27:41Z")
While not all trolls follow the pattern of “newish poster who starts a button-pushing thread”, I believe everyone who matches the pattern “newish poster who starts a button-pushing thread” ends up being a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3841 "2021-06-11T21:31:43Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > While not all trolls follow the pattern of “newish poster who starts a button-pushing thread”, I believe everyone who matches the pattern “newish poster who starts a button-pushing thread” ends up being a troll Not necessarily-If someone comes from another board that actually encourages such behavior, they might think it is normal to act in such a manner. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3842 "2021-06-11T21:38:26Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Not necessarily-If someone comes from another board that actually encourages such behavior, they might think it is normal to act in such a manner.   I agreed on not necessarily, but I can’t recall a counter-example. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3843 "2021-06-11T21:54:54Z")
LauderdaleFort anyone? Account set up a year ago, 10h total read time = 10h recent read time. A dubiously-motivated thread about Kamala, with the thread title originally misspelled Kalama (it was corrected by a mod). Now a thread “Guys, who’s hotter, you or your wife” - immediately closed [now up and running]. I predict a less-than-bright future here. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3844 "2021-06-11T22:38:43Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > LauderdaleFort anyone? Account set up a year ago, Actually only one month ago. I participated in a thread with him about Tony La Russa (baseball), and he was entirely normal and reasonable. He reminds me of [Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs) who also had a mix of normal sports posts and aggressively white male posts. Then again, Yankees also had similarities to our departed stucco friend. It’s not like aggressively white male who likes sports is a rare breed. As for Laudy, I’m not calling troll yet. _Yet._ ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3845 "2021-06-11T22:44:14Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Actually only one month ago. I’m not doing very well reading profiles, am I? This time I know what I did - misread “May 10th” as “May '20”. In my defense, I think others have complained about the confusing date formatting in Discourse when it jumps from month-day to month-year. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3846 "2021-06-11T22:55:57Z")
We were pretty sure Gadzooks was a sock of Stucco but weren’t sure. Then Gaddy went ahead and made it almost certain. Added to this, Stucco is probably the sock of an older account that got warned many times. So he’ll probably be back again with a new incarnation. If he plays nice we probably won’t notice, if he starts trolling or insulting other posters again, we’ll be banning another sock. So it goes. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2021, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3847 "2021-06-12T12:40:09Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > SSS2020 got banned. What an absolute shocker! Two on the board, one on the keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3848 "2021-06-12T13:55:17Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > …[Max’s] posts which are generally both hypertechnical and complete nonsense. I find him reminiscent of an A.I. that has been programmed (albeit poorly) with logic and debating techniques; but has not been trained _at all_ on the dataset that is reality. _DANG_ did you ever nail that one. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3849 "2021-06-13T00:12:59Z")
Can I recruit some people to come into the “Whale Tries To Eat Man” thread to help me defend my (obviously correct) interpretation of the Bible verse “Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD”? Preferably with extensive cites from the Quran, medieval literature etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=191) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=193)