# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3870 "2021-06-26T17:47:18Z")

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And in unrelated Troll news, **oldoaktree** apparently got his with the trolling/sock banhammer. I don’t feel bad for giving him the benefit of the doubt in a few threads, but seems I was wrong.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3871 "2021-06-26T17:48:09Z")

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Regards, oldoaktree.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3872 "2021-06-26T18:00:11Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> And in unrelated Troll news, **oldoaktree** apparently got his with the trolling/sock banhammer.

Should have stayed on the bus; forgot about us.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3873 "2021-06-26T18:08:58Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> It was crass and provocative, but you could play Devil’s Advocate and argue that, actually, the OP was vigorously anti-racist. Makes it a tough one to moderate - not even a warning (or even a mod note) in this case.

If it came from a known “equal opportunity” troll then it would be more obvious trolling. Equal opportunity trolls are the ones that like to take controversial stands no matter what the stance is as long as it riles people up and has enough plausible deniability to let them stick around for a few days. Fortunately, they are less difficult to moderate since they also get off on switching sides during the middle of an argument and vigorously attacking the people who are agreeing with them.

But yeah, from someone who is less of a known quantity, it’s harder to tell. The basic facts do have a ring of truth to them.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3874 "2021-06-26T22:00:22Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> It was crass and provocative, but you could play Devil’s Advocate and argue that, actually, the OP was vigorously anti-racist. Makes it a tough one to moderate - not even a warning (or even a mod note) in this case.

I might if this poster wasn’t a frequent flyer in this thread. I meant my post as a “last straw” sort of thing. They’ve been here long enough to know exactly how provocative they were being.

The thread itself isn’t my issue. It’s the title. That they bait and switch the reader with the actual post contents is not a positive thing, in my book.

And I would say they do come off as the “equal opportunity troll” type, @Ludovic. They’re the same poster who did the “Blame the WOMAN MOM” thread. They’ve had threads closed saying for saying things like "ugly 3rd world alien.” They casually call different groups derogatory names. And this is the third thread of theirs which was closed.

It’s not clear to me if they’ve been Warned, If not, that might be a good idea, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3875 "2021-06-26T23:21:14Z")

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Well, color me shocked! Not at all surprised, but it’s probably already here under another name anyway.

Come out, come out, wherever you are. I bet you suck at poker.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3876 "2021-06-27T00:19:02Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> And in unrelated Troll news, **oldoaktree** apparently got his with the trolling/sock banhammer. I don’t feel bad for giving him the benefit of the doubt in a few threads, but seems I was wrong.

Hmm. Shouldn’t his Pit thread be locked then?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3877 "2021-06-27T00:30:14Z")

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I put in a request to do that.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3878 "2021-06-27T02:35:32Z")

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The whole damned omnibus was cheering.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3879 "2021-06-27T02:38:22Z")

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lSWYDT

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**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3880 "2021-06-27T16:02:14Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> > [@ParallelLines](#):
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> > And in unrelated Troll news, **oldoaktree** apparently got his with the trolling/sock banhammer.
> 
> Should have stayed on the bus; forgot about us.

_golfclap_

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3881 "2021-06-27T22:47:24Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Regards, oldoaktree.

That was **Shodan**?

We also seem to have lost **Czarcasm** ’s pit thread. I’ll have to trudge through my emails to read the rest.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3882 "2021-06-28T02:10:48Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> That was **Shodan**?

I would not be surprised. Dude needs to move on, but is constitutionally unable to.

Quite sad, actually.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3883 "2021-06-28T13:49:35Z")

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Looks like noted shitty-yet-ridiculously-expensive clothes aficionado **HughGoply** has decided the clothes trolling was too subtle

> [@America needs Emancipation Day as a National Holiday](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-needs-emancipation-day-as-a-national-holiday/945130/26):
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> I am being serious. Thesr are gross holidays. Washington owned slaves. Columbus committed acts of genocide. 4 July ignores the slaves. Thanksgiving celebrates the destruction the Natives (by implication). This is classic racist behavior. Just say, “oh you can’t be serious” to calls for justice. Note: I didn’t call you a racist. I said your behavior is racist.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3884 "2021-06-28T15:22:08Z")

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If it wasn’t overt trolling, it was pretty dumb.

Although getting rid of Columbus Day would be fine with me.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3885 "2021-06-28T15:32:47Z")

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I love how eliminating “gross holidays” is a ‘call for justice’.  
I’m quite sure racist America would gladly accept the loss of a couple of holidays, that they’ll celebrate anyway, in exchange for being able to tell Black Americans ‘We did something, now shut the fuck up about slavery and racism’.

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3886 "2021-06-28T15:37:34Z")

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He’s trolling. He started a thread about Amazon selling cocaine vials, apparently for the sole purpose of drawing this conclusion:

> [@Should Amazon sell cocaine vials with spoons?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-amazon-sell-cocaine-vials-with-spoons/945028/16):
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> The consensus appears to be people need cocaine, especially in a pandemic. This place is pretty hip.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3887 "2021-06-28T18:48:05Z")

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This one is obvious but are they new?

> [@Bronze medal Athlete fidgets and fusses during national anthem](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bronze-medal-athlete-fidgets-and-fusses-during-national-anthem/945174/):
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> Gwen Berry throws hammer, gets medal, feels disrespected when national anthem plays during podium ceremony. Is she a brat that shouldn’t go to the Olympics or should her disrespect be respected?

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3888 "2021-06-28T19:13:56Z")

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Keeping busy sno bo?  
 ![](https://c.tenor.com/FcWd5_LtkJoAAAAC/quarry-station-netcats.gif "Quarry Station Netcats GIF - Quarry Station Netcats - Discover & Share GIFs")

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3889 "2021-06-28T19:15:38Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> This one is obvious but are they new?

Yeah, only here for 17 years. Freakin’ noob!

That thread wasn’t trolling. I don’t know what it was – misplaced recreational outrage?

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