# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 196
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3910 "2021-06-29T14:53:56Z")
Uh, you first. People are responding to your asinine reaction ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3911 "2021-06-29T14:54:33Z")
And so they may protest freely about it too. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3912 "2021-06-29T14:55:49Z")
Oooooh, burn. What a zinger! ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3913 "2021-06-29T14:57:19Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Oooooh, burn. Try some spf 50 on your pure ivoryness. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3914 "2021-06-29T14:59:28Z")
You seem to be implying I’m white. I am not. Not sure what you’re trying to achieve here, but it’s stupid and I’m done. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3915 "2021-06-29T15:02:55Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Not sure what you’re trying to achieve here, He’s in the Troll olympics, and he’s sad that he’s currently placing 35th. Most of his posts could be replaced by “LOOK AT ME!” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3916 "2021-06-29T15:07:10Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > He’s in the Troll olympics, and he’s sad that he’s currently placing 35th. {…} So sad that he won’t get to stand on the podium and listen to the National Anthem and get a medal… ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3917 "2021-06-29T15:18:15Z")
Yet I can tell by your post count in this thread what you really excel at, medal winner! ![](https://c.tenor.com/YmIvfJLeJDEAAAAC/poop-olympics.gif "Poop Olympics GIF - Poop Olympics - Discover & Share GIFs") ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3918 "2021-06-29T15:25:28Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > You seem to be implying I’m white. I am not. And you seem to be implying people of color (poc) do not use spf? Wtf it’s a play on your user names ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3919 "2021-06-29T15:34:19Z")
Well, having read all @Chela’s comments here, as well as the original thread, I think I’ll have to disagree with > [@RitterSport](#): > > That thread wasn’t trolling. I don’t know what it was – misplaced recreational outrage? It’s trolling. Maybe, _maybe_ the original thread wasn’t, but the way it went on and here? Sure looks like it. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3920 "2021-06-29T15:36:51Z")
Everyone should protest the anthem at sporting events, but **Chela** raises a more important question: > [@"chela](#): > > What’s a medal mean to a country when the athlete you sent to win it feels disrespected on the podium while your country’s anthem plays. **Aren’t we United**? No, we are not. Certainly not in any common purpose outside of making war. If we were, we’d have universal healthcare. If we were, people wouldn’t be moved to protest against the systemic racism that’s infected our country since its inception. Fuck an anthem. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3921 "2021-06-29T15:37:09Z")
And now, back to our regularly scheduled programing. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3922 "2021-06-29T15:39:14Z")
I’d stand/ kneel for a few minutes of silent reflection rather than listen to the star spangled banner. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3923 "2021-06-29T15:44:21Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I cannot imagine someone on this message board being argumentative just for the sake of it! They might have an appointment for abuse and go in the wrong door. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3924 "2021-06-29T15:45:00Z")
Team, I just want to give @D_Anconia a shout out for his excellent assist in proving one of the themes from my latest OP, [The Journey](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-journey-pictures-long-af/945194), about the evolution of my political thinking. The OP was way too long (I originally wrote it for my Substack and it clocked in at over 5,000 words), so I broke it into multiple posts which, I assumed, would make it easier for the reader than a mere 5k WALL O’ TEXT would be. In the third post, I make the following observation: > [@The Journey (pictures, long af)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-journey-pictures-long-af/945194/3): > > The conservative position, at least as expressed by Rush Limbaugh, was _whiny_ . Now… this is personal. May not convince a single one of you who have made it this far (thanks), but to me, nothing… NOTHING… is more irritating than a whiny man. And Rush was a whiner who complained about everything, even though he was speaking to the “rugged individualists” (using one of his favorite phrases, at least in the 90s) of the conservative movement. But he just whined. Well, guess what happened? 😃 Somebody had to, you know, _whine_ > [@Why is the SDMB membership declining, and what's the best way to add younger members?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-sdmb-membership-declining-and-whats-the-best-way-to-add-younger-members/944208/434): > > What about someone posting 6 times in a row to start a new topic? Surely, that’s not desirable in terms of fostering discussion. [The Journey (pictures, long af) - Politics & Elections - Straight Dope Message Board](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-journey-pictures-long-af/945194/6) > [@Why is the SDMB membership declining, and what's the best way to add younger members?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-sdmb-membership-declining-and-whats-the-best-way-to-add-younger-members/944208/435): > > There’s slightly different rules when you are the topic owner. We already prevent too many sequential replies by the same person, unless you are the topic owner. @kevlaw one key difference between this community and the one you’re referencing – I think there’s a lot of built-in empathy when it comes to medical condition communities. Now, let’s be frank. D’anconia doesn’t give a fuck about the SDMB. He doesn’t pay, he doesn’t promote, he’s just a user. He is so ignorant of the way this board functions that he asks the GUY WHO RUNS DISCOUSE to make a moderating decision. And he didn’t care, not really, that a thread was started by the OP breaking up 5k of words into separate posts. Naw, he just wanted to be a whiny-assed bitch. Tragically, this teenaged, passive-aggressive shit was so blatantly transparent that even What Exit took pity on him in their response: > [@Why is the SDMB membership declining, and what's the best way to add younger members?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-the-sdmb-membership-declining-and-whats-the-best-way-to-add-younger-members/944208/449): > > No, it isn’t. codinghorror is not SDMB staff but our gracious host. Policy comes from our Admin Ed Zotti or maybe from SDMB mods. And, one last thing. D’anconia: you’re a coward. Fucking address me personally, especially when you have a complaint about me. Capice? Think your rugged individualistic conservative self can handle some direct conflict? You just fuckin’ fled to a safe space to whine like a 5 year-old instead of responding to the thread. And you constantly do this with me, probably the only person on this Board who realizes what a disservice you are doing to your namesake, Francisco Domingo Carlos Andres Sebastián d’Anconia. _(A tertiary character in Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged.)_ So, if you’re going to ignore my words, that’s fine. Be a man for once and just ignore my presence as well. Or talk to me. This? This is embarrassing. But it goes _exactly_ to the point in my thread, so thank you as well. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3925 "2021-06-29T15:47:10Z")
_Whiner_ is a perfect description of **D’Asshole**. He _only_ pops up in threads to whine about somebody else’s posts, never to actually add any value whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3926 "2021-06-29T15:50:39Z")
If ol’ clothy transitioned to female and created a sock here, she/her/hers would be indistinguishable from chela. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3927 "2021-06-29T16:16:47Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Well, having read all @Chela’s comments here, as well as the original thread, I think I’ll have to disagree with > > > [@RitterSport](#): > > > > That thread wasn’t trolling. I don’t know what it was – misplaced recreational outrage? > > It’s trolling. Maybe, _maybe_ the original thread wasn’t, but the way it went on and here? Sure looks like it. Amen. **chela’s** entire schtick is being argumentative, being an asshole, and being an argumentative asshole. No real contributions, just flinging shit. Find me one of her posts where she actually added something positive to a conversation, and I’ll find 50 where she was just trying to piss someone off. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3928 "2021-06-29T16:31:13Z")
Two things: 1.) If Francisco Domingo Carlos Andres Sebastián d’Anconia really _cared_ about his reputation, I can’t imagine he’d actually appear in an Ayn Rand novel. 2.) _capisce_. You’re welcome. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3929 "2021-06-29T16:32:30Z")
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