# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 198
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3951 "2021-07-04T16:55:15Z")
The question of trans women in sport is an important and difficult one, but I refuse to participate in a thread with an offensive OP like that. Hardly looks like the content of the debate is transcending the OP anyway. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3952 "2021-07-04T17:03:35Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > **HughGoply** is trolling the shit out of that thread. I’m tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt in that he’s not so much trolling as that he’s just fucking dumb. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3953 "2021-07-04T17:17:44Z")
I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3954 "2021-07-04T17:21:12Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > The question of trans women in sport is an important and difficult one, but I refuse to participate in a thread with an offensive OP like that. You mean the thread I linked? I don’t see what is offensive about the OP. Is it that he said “transgender boys” when in context he meant girls? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3955 "2021-07-04T17:36:55Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > You mean the thread I linked? I don’t see what is offensive about the OP. Boys [giant arrow] Girls in the thread title. “Converted” in the thread title. Misgendering in the first sentence of the OP. “whether or not they had their naughty bits cut off” You really don’t see anything offensive and hostile there? Anyway, there’s an ATMB thread about it. ---
**Author:** ![kevlaw](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kevlaw/32/2281_2.png) [@kevlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevlaw)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3956 "2021-07-04T18:33:44Z")
If I had to guess, I would say that HughGoply is parodying trans-activist arguments in an attempt to, ultimately, discredit them. It’s a reductio. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3957 "2021-07-04T18:52:13Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > You really don’t see anything offensive and hostile there? Anyway, there’s an ATMB thread about it. Not to me, no. To me it comes across as clumsy, but not hostile. I guess this topic comes with a lot of baggage, and I am not trying to tell anyone not to be offended. > [@kevlaw](#): > > If I had to guess, I would say that HughGoply is parodying trans-activist arguments in an attempt to, ultimately, discredit them. It’s a reductio. Perhaps. But even if so, he’s monopolizing the thread in an assholish way. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3958 "2021-07-05T02:40:10Z")
And once again, it’s time for our fun and exciting Pit game, “Is it a troll or just a dumbass?”. Our candidate this time is the OP of the “Weather Modification” thread in MPSIMS, who repeatedly provides oodles of proof that an international government conspiracy is conspiratorially conspiring to change the weather, destroy the world, and raise taxes by blaming climate change on carbon emissions. I refuse to link to the thread and give this idiot any more attention, but it’s worth a note here. I know what you’re saying – the OP’s zealous serial posting style suggests “troll”, but what makes this a fun challenge is that brain-dead dumbasses tend to post much the same way. So, troll or dumbass? I suppose I should have set up a poll and offered prize money, but fuck it! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3959 "2021-07-05T02:52:38Z")
Hmmm. Read the thread, and _so far_ going with brainless CT victim rather than Troll (so poll answer would be [Dumbass](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMe3WDmxBEI)). They seem so eager to share it all, as if we’re all going to say “we’ve known about it for years, but didn’t know it was being used against us!”. However, the no-effort name of the user (and I’ll respect your desire to not repeat it) and the private profile definitely send up Troll Signals… ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3960 "2021-07-05T16:54:33Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I know what you’re saying – the OP’s zealous serial posting style suggests “troll”, but what makes this a fun challenge is that brain-dead dumbasses tend to post much the same way. So, troll or dumbass? As I’ve said countless times before, _ad nauseum_, there really isn’t any actual distinction to be made there. None of these pooterheads are coming in with the mindset of “Yeah, I know that AGW is real, but I’ll just troll the libs here for the lolz.” A troll by definition is also a dumbass, if for no other reason than the fact that he/she/it invariably uses disingenuous tactics, something an honest & reasonably intelligent person would not do. Either way they come in here and stir the hornet’s nest into action; trying to divine their actual motives and beliefs is utterly pointless… [And is wasting time doing so on an internet backwater when he could be doing something more constructive with his time] ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3961 "2021-07-05T19:07:04Z")
Regarding my image in that thread–two people or one? ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3962 "2021-07-05T19:12:18Z")
It’s not her, it’s her twin sister! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3963 "2021-07-06T03:41:43Z")
She’s her daughter. She’s her sister. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3964 "2021-07-06T03:43:01Z")
Forget it, Jake. ---
**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3965 "2021-07-06T03:55:31Z")
They’re not twins!! They’re triplets!!! ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3966 "2021-07-06T03:57:43Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I refuse to link to the thread and give this idiot any more attention, but it’s worth a note here. Please, everyone, heed this advice. We want to be sure we get all the information we can on this one before he is spooked to leave the forum. Questions are being asked at very high levels about sources, and we fear there may be some loose ends to tie up. We won’t be sure until we’ve heard the subject poster out in full, at which point we will be able to… take necessary corrective action to preserve information security. ETA: But, yeah, definite troll. The profile picture, the username, the fact that the profile is _hidden_ (an option I still can’t believe exists). ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3967 "2021-07-06T19:55:11Z")
When someone turns up and posts 40 times (and creates 3 topics) in 21 hours, it makes me go _hmmm_. But nothing attention-grabbing that I saw. Oh, hang on: "Jefferson raped Sally Hemmings, a slave…Apologise for it, justify it, but Thomas Jefferson fucked Sally Hemmings. " One to watch? It’s in the GQ Bullshit History thread. Post 168. j ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3968 "2021-07-07T17:31:36Z")
[Grundig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grundig) suspended for one day, all 3 of his threads locked. Classic concern troll. # [New Zealand is an evil colonial country](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-zealand-is-an-evil-colonial-country/945867) “I don’t really believe that, but it’s worth exploring.” ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3969 "2021-07-07T17:55:58Z")
I would not be surprised if the suspension is extended to indefinite. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/3970 "2021-07-07T18:12:17Z")
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