# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4031 "2021-07-10T05:10:53Z")

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I’d say I agree too, but I don’t want to pile on. So, uh, anyone want to trade sandwiches? I think my mom packed turkey for me. Extra mayo.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4032 "2021-07-10T05:48:45Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Other online communities don’t need a pit because you can call a troll a troll, a liar a liar, and a racist a racist anywhere, and so then you don’t need to have a bunch of hand-wringing over whether, say, rape denial and misogyny are among the things that are okay in said pit.

And I think this is really it. If we want to get rid of the Pit (and it’s not entirely up to us of course) we would need to remove the limitations on calling out liars and other egregious behavior that certain members take advantage in our forums. Moderation of course plays it’s role, but every other message board I’ve encountered is far, _far_ worse about the so-called group think, where the moderation is blatantly partisan.

Or, of course, unmoderated chatrooms tend to be absolute cesspools. Here we have a balance, were we have at least a veneer of forced civility for 90+% of the forums, and the Pit, which is (for all the bitching) mostly about everything else and a tiny smidge about calling out posters who are fools, liars, and/or out-and-out trolls even if not necessarily by the definitions of this board.

Is there room for improvement? Sure, and I suggested a few in the last ATMB thread about the Pit. But if the Pit was gone tomorrow, and there were no rules to allow people to speak against the people that keep on pushing the edge of moderation, I suspect we’d have an immediate drop in active population and/or so much use of ignore that many threads would become disjointed.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4033 "2021-07-10T05:51:09Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> You’re both wrong. 😉 Using mayo as a base for a tangy or spicy seafood sauce is an old culinary tradition. One of the best sauces to have with lobster cakes or crab cakes, for example, is chipotle mayo, which is not the same as the mayo sauce recipe here, but the same general idea of tarting up a mayo base to make it a great seafood accompaniment. 😋

You’re all wrong. There are no sauces made with mayo that could not be made better (and safer) by subbing in yogurt or sour cream as the base instead. NONE. I, the God Emperor of Arrakis (formerly known as the American Southwest) have spoken.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4034 "2021-07-10T11:45:50Z")

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Back on task, there’s a fan of the Cubs over in IMHO who wants to know if the men of Afghanistan are simply cowards. Hidden profile. So I can’t tell if they’ve been here twenty years or twenty minutes - but I lean towards the latter.

j

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4035 "2021-07-10T12:00:32Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> there’s a fan of the Cubs over in IMHO who wants to know if the men of Afghanistan are simply cowards. Hidden profile. So I can’t tell if they’ve been here twenty years or twenty minutes - but I lean towards the latter.

You say you can’t tell, but: doesn’t a hidden profile still leave you with the ability to simply _look at their old posts?_ Like [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-lynch-poses-for-hustler/212659/108) one from ‘03, or [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-dont-women-in-the-military-get-hair-cuts/133146/14) one from ‘02?

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4036 "2021-07-10T12:20:48Z")

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Yeah I’ve been here since the late 90s I think. How do I unhide my profile? I’m not sure I actually have one.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4037 "2021-07-10T12:23:58Z")

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Profile\>Preferences\>Interface\>uncheck “Hide my public profile and presence features” \> Save Changes(bottom of page)

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4038 "2021-07-10T12:50:16Z")

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Oops, my bad. Apologies, sir. From most people the question I highlighted would seem strange; but I see now that you are well qualified to ask it.

A swing and a miss.

j

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4039 "2021-07-10T12:58:14Z")

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Click on your avatar at the top (pink square with C).

Then on the head and shoulders icon at the right.

Then Preferences, then Interface.

Uncheck ‘Hide my public profile and presence features’, and click ‘Save Changes’.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4040 "2021-07-10T13:24:52Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> question I highlighted would seem strange; but I see now that you are well qualified to ask it.
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> A swing and a miss.

No worries. I certainly asked the question in an inflammatory way in hindsight.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4041 "2021-07-10T14:18:16Z")

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Before you unhide your profile you should probably check to see if you included any information you don’t want public. I’ve never looked at what the profile shows, so maybe that’s not an issue. But it might be.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4042 "2021-07-10T19:00:47Z")

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@Cubsfan, go fuck yourself you bigoted asshole.

> [@Are the men of Afghanistan simply cowards or is it something else?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-the-men-of-afghanistan-simply-cowards-or-is-it-something-else/946110):
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> The rapid surrender of the ANA and police to the Taliban over the last 2-3 months has me convinced that they are cowards. I understand fear of being killed, I’ve done Afghanistan multiple times. With that said I don’t understand the mindset of the fighting-aged men who are literally handing the country over to Taliban, ensuring their wives and daughters will have miserable lives. These aren’t just a bunch of civilian bakers and carpenters who were captured by some hostile force. These are me…

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4043 "2021-07-10T20:03:36Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> One of the best sauces to have with lobster cakes or crab cakes, for example, is chipotle mayo, which is not the same as the mayo sauce recipe here,

Wasabi mayo is fantastic with seafood. 😋

> [@Cubsfan](#):
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> No worries. I certainly asked the question in an inflammatory way in hindsight.

Boy howdy, yes you did.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4044 "2021-07-10T20:14:08Z")

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Example: Did you not realize in your profile you are most liked by @discobot ?

Lol a most exalted status! 😉🤣

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**Author:** ![discobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/discobot/32/570_2.png) [@discobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/discobot)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4045 "2021-07-10T20:14:10Z")

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Hi! To find out what I can do, say `@discobot display help`.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4046 "2021-07-10T20:15:11Z")

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@discobot whom do you like most?

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4047 "2021-07-11T15:34:15Z")

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Now **HughGoply** is spamming the board with sunglasses ads:

> [@Vuarnet legend 03--Tortoise or brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vuarnet-legend-03-tortoise-or-brown/946192):
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> What do you like better: Tortoise: deleted or Brown: deleted The Tortoise have grey lenses while the brown have brown lenses.

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4048 "2021-07-11T15:37:09Z")

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Already closed and the links deleted.

“Too spammy to allow.”

Do you think the guy has some kind of affiliate relationship with these upmarket brands? Or does he just want to boast about how much money he has to waste, and how bad his fashion sense is?

😁 &nbsp;

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4049 "2021-07-11T15:43:21Z")

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> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> does he just want to boast about how much money he has to waste

Pretty sure it’s this one.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4050 "2021-07-11T15:47:29Z")

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> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> Already closed and the links deleted.

Right after I reported it. 😇

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