# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4233 "2021-08-12T16:37:33Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I can’t tell if this guy [shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313) is trolling or is just fucking stupid as a box of hair:
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> He first posts “new info” with a 14 year old article.  
> When called on it, he posts a new article that has nothing whatsoever to do with the origin of the spanish flu.  
> When I point this out, he apparently does not understand what I’m saying.
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> My vote is fucking stupid, but you never know.

Now in MSPIMS rambling about Kennedy assassination/Nazi scientist conspiracies.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4234 "2021-08-12T16:55:33Z")

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Harassment of new posters like this is going to drive out the new blood we so desperately need!

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4235 "2021-08-13T00:42:35Z")

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On the one hand, we haven’t had a good Kennedy assassination thread in awhile, on the other hand something ain’t right. Eh, I say with keep 'em for a bit.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4236 "2021-08-13T18:04:59Z")

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@shh1313 has talked with me a few others via PM before, and I think she’s harmless. I think she’s a bit dull, but that perhaps her time here could help sharpen her intelligence a bit.

I mean, it’s possible I guess that she’s playing an elaborate con game. I’ve been fooled before. But I don’t find anything (that I’ve seen that) she says to be rile-up worthy, and I’m willing to let her have a shot. We’ve had some posters like her before who got better.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4237 "2021-08-13T18:14:25Z")

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Ok, so fucking stupid, it is.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4238 "2021-08-13T18:21:43Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I think she’s a bit dull

Why would you @ her and that if you believe she’s sincere?

FWIW, I don’t think she’s sincere. I think she’s a shit-posting troll.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4239 "2021-08-13T18:30:05Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> FWIW, I don’t think she’s sincere. I think she’s a shit-posting troll.

Was it her lament of man’s inhumanity to man that gave it away?

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4240 "2021-08-13T18:32:32Z")

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Honestly? It was the avatar that first had me suspicious. The shit they put into words was only the confirmation.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4241 "2021-08-13T21:20:52Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I don’t find anything (that I’ve seen that) she says to be rile-up worthy, and I’m willing to let her have a shot. We’ve had some posters like her before who got better.

I got the same impression from her. I don’t think she’s malicious. And I’m pretty suspicious about this sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4242 "2021-08-13T21:55:04Z")

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The hidden profiles are always suspicious to me and that makes the opinions of people who hide their profile of no value.

I don’t trust them from the get go. I know not everyone feels this way, but I can’t shake the bad feeling.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4243 "2021-08-13T21:57:23Z")

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Maybe I’m naive, but I’m with those who think she’s not a troll, but she’s spectacularly uninformed, and there’s definitely some Dunning-Kruger stuff going on here. She thinks we’re all being mean to her because she’s “just asking questions”. Except she isn’t, really. She posts long assertive screeds and then gets upset when it’s pointed out that it’s nonsense. She just did it again in that same Nazi scientists thread – posting a lengthy string of gibberish and then saying “I’m just guessing” as if that excuses it.

The problem is that no one is going to bother refuting every single idiotic point in a long string of gibberish, as opposed to answering one or two specific sensible questions. So the string of gibberish just sits there, like a dog turd on the living room floor. If her intent is, as she says, to actually learn something, she’s going about it all wrong.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4244 "2021-08-13T22:41:58Z")

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“somethingwitty1”, recent member, would like to know if any of us have done crimes. MPSIMS

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4245 "2021-08-13T23:15:39Z")

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I will often wear the same t-shirt for a week. That’s gotta be a crime somewhere, right?

I will say that account has _a lot_ of read time.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4246 "2021-08-13T23:59:48Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> > [@BigT](#):
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> > I think she’s a bit dull
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> Why would you @ her and that if you believe she’s sincere?

Because I sometimes forget to delete the @ sign. Her name is a bit weird to remember, so I used the @ sign so her name would autocomplete, and forgot to erase it. It was a mistake.

I will also point out that I’ve not seen her posts all that often. Maybe I missed something. That PM definitely seemed quite sincere, like she was genuinely happy I answered her tech questions and helped her out. But, I guess, maybe it was sincere and yet she also likes to stir shit up.

I’m just giving her the benefit of the doubt for now.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4247 "2021-08-14T00:23:13Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Her name is a bit weird to remember, so I used the @ sign so her name would autocomplete, and forgot to erase it. It was a mistake.

Ah, well, I’ve made similar uses. Completely understandable.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4248 "2021-08-14T03:13:01Z")

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Can you delete the post?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4249 "2021-08-14T03:31:22Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Can you delete the post?

I don’t think I can. I think they realigned it where you get the same 15 minutes to make a post or delete it. At least, it seemed that way the last time I tried to delete a post.

That said, I didn’t try, because I did a quick search and she’s posted since I made that post. So she would have already gotten the notification.

If she hadn’t, I would have asked a mod to edit the post to remove the @. I’ve done that before, in this very thread, and @Miller was kind enough to do it for me.

(and, yes, @-ing Miller was intentional.)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4250 "2021-08-14T16:49:10Z")

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[headcasey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/headcasey) joined 2 hours ago, and is posting bullshit conspiracy theory talking points in the Quarantine Zone.

Sock.

Countdown to banning /cornfielding in 3…2…1…

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4251 "2021-08-14T16:57:52Z")

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The only question is, sock or trock? The only difference is whether they sincerely mean their BS.

Not that the distinction makes a difference on their impact and need to get banned.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4252 "2021-08-14T17:08:12Z")

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Aaaaand…he is outahere!

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