# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4321 "2021-08-17T23:58:56Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Has anyone mentioned the ‘health care worker’ who has bravely manned ‘the front lines’ getting bent out of shape about Obama’s birthday bash? Classic concern troll.

Why do you think **P. P.** is a concern troll, let alone “classic” concern troll?

Indicators **P.P.** is not a concern troll

1. Made a dedicated topic. Concern trolls usually want to distract from an existing discussion, not poison the water of their own discussion.
2. Actually laid out the rationale for bashing Obama: he claims to work in healthcare and is annoyed at covidiots saying ‘but Obama!’ Now, I may have some more insight than others here since I _also_ work in healthcare. And yes, covidiots are saying ‘but Obama!’ and it is really _really_ annoying. Thanks a lot, Obama.

And to the accusations of sockery, did **CarnalK** ever claim to hold a doctorate in Nursing? Is there some kind of stylistic similarity I’m not seeing, other than the fact that a new poster wants to talk about COVID politics?

~Max

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4322 "2021-08-18T00:02:53Z")

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This:

"Why have I heard NO condemnation of these seeming hypocrisies? I have a hard enough time arguing this using science. I’ve scanned the internet for a week now looking for some rational news outlet who condemned this, and all I’ve found is Fox News and their (daily) condemnation. "

Easily refuted and demonstrably false. Nobody who spent a week looking would have failed to find **anything** from a non-wingnut source. They really gilded the lily there.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4323 "2021-08-18T01:24:32Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> Why do you think **P. P.** is a concern troll, let alone “classic” concern troll?

The OP rings false, as do many of the follow-ups. I think the OP is full of shit, doesn’t work in healthcare, and started the thread just to bash Obama. YMMV. But then again, I’ve seen it a million times already.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4324 "2021-08-18T15:53:57Z")

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What **Johnny\_Bravo** and **BlankSlate** said, plus:

- Sharing what can only be intentional falsehoods, like “the tent was closed on all sides” and “there were 200 staff plus an unknown large number of guests.” That’s not someone making a mistake, that’s someone trying to push a narrative.
- A healthcare worker who says the pandemic is “getting no better with vaccinations?” That’s either not a healthcare worker, or is someone invested only in bashing Obama.
- The immediate jump to playing the victim when he encountered any pushback.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4325 "2021-08-18T15:56:34Z")

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You have a point, I took that as hyperbole but you have a point.

Then again I believe it is the case if one normally browses the right wing internet, Google will realize you only want right wing sources. For example I spent about four minutes searching from my work computer and could only find one non-right-wing result, an [Axios article](https://www.axios.com/obama-plans-birthday-bash-amid-covid-concerns-26278329-43be-473d-bf16-80b025e03912.html) that predates the party itself. Every other result for pages of Google search is right of center or obscure. The Week, The Hill (opinion), The New York Post, The Wall Street Journal, Fox, etc.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4326 "2021-08-18T16:12:18Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> Then again I believe it is the case if one normally browses the right wing internet, Google will realize you only want right wing sources.

Maybe, but the person being represented in that OP is not a person who only reads the right-wing internet.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4327 "2021-08-24T20:33:13Z")

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**Shh1313** is banned? When did that happen? It says banned here (20 Aug):

> [@I found the secret to losing weight!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-found-the-secret-to-losing-weight/949153/28):
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> This is what I did, I was always 85-102 lbs til I was 53-54 years old. I was very, stressed ongoing for a little over 6- 7 years. My coping skills were 2-3 dark milky ways a day, chocolate cake, chocolate pie, large Nutella. If it was chocolate I ate it. One day I went shopping for clothes that would fit my 18th century womanly figure. No size 1, or 3. NOPE I was a size 16 and 167. lbs. I was mad, mad at me! I bought 1 size 8, 2 size 6 AND 1 size 3 matching outfits. I went home if it was …

j

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4328 "2021-08-24T20:42:11Z")

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Huh - last post (and warning) here: [Tell me what you know about Delta-8 THC - #32 by shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-what-you-know-about-delta-8-thc/949168/32)

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4329 "2021-08-24T20:43:03Z")

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I have a hunch s/he’ll be back…

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4330 "2021-08-24T20:44:53Z")

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She got a warning for not following mod instructions to stop posting OT ramblings, and followed it by immediately posting an OT rambling. I’m going to guess she got banned for being too ditzy to pay attention to what threads are about what.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4331 "2021-08-24T20:46:42Z")

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I’d buy suspended if that was all it was. But I’m guessing there was more to it than that.

j

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4332 "2021-08-24T21:17:03Z")

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I have no idea what it was that led to the banning, but “ditzy” is an understatement. S/he was either a trolling sock or a CT-spouting moron, and will not be missed.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4333 "2021-08-24T21:33:24Z")

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Oh, I don’t know about that. Crazy has its entertainment value.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4334 "2021-08-24T21:39:37Z")

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Yeah, I hoped we’d keep her around, and maybe it would do her some good.

Or she’d reveal her true colors and go down in a glorious fashion, like with that one Charlie guy.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4335 "2021-08-25T00:40:18Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Crazy has its entertainment value.

Up to a point. It’s fun and games when she wears a hubcap as a “spaceray cap” and rants about moonmen and cheese weasels, but when she starts smearing feces on the walls you gotta kick her out.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4336 "2021-08-25T02:19:06Z")

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Posting here because I assume this sarcasm would be frowned upon in P&E. This poster joined to concern troll about Obama spreading COVID, totally objectively and un-politically motivated, mind you.

Then they can’t help themselves but to accuse someone who allegedly misgendered them of being a dirty “educated progressive”

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> [@Frustrations as a healthcare worker...Obama's Bash](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frustrations-as-a-healthcare-worker-obamas-bash/948733/135):
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> I am a bit surprised that educated progressives are so easily gender biased though

Librulz, amirite? I’m just asking questions here, but why is it always an educated progressive who’s the most sexist of everyone!?

Of course, there’s no way to know the politics of Tfletch1, so maybe we shouldn’t make that assumption. But I guess, you know, anyone who thinks Barack Husein Obama doesn’t deserve criticism for whatever Fox wants to freak out about is clearly on the wrong team.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4337 "2021-08-25T02:29:59Z")

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“ **PossumPie** ”…he (?) and **Beck** should get along swimmingly. [I’ll just note the newbie hasn’t gone back to that thread in 2 days]

But that’s the thing tho. These people hardly ever wander into MPSIMS and start contributing to one of the more casual threads. Gee I wonder why…

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4338 "2021-08-25T02:46:37Z")

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Hey! Don’t diss cheese weasels.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4339 "2021-08-25T05:12:33Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> Hey! Don’t diss cheese weasels. &nbsp;

Are they good to eat?

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4340 "2021-08-25T05:50:13Z")

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@Spice_Weasel

I invoke an expert on culinary weasels.

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