# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 224
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4481 "2021-09-10T06:37:40Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > > [@octopus](#): > > > > Yes. An adult who isn’t afraid to see debate on difficult subjects as opposed to a crowd pleaser. > > What is there to debate? I see you’ve, as usual, rejected actually _engaging in discussion_ and gone with _light trolling_ . . . you’re so fucking predictable. PS Who’s the ‘’‘rape apologist’‘’? You are the one suggesting there’s something debatable about rape. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4482 "2021-09-10T06:57:21Z")
Another rape apologist! Gross! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4483 "2021-09-10T07:00:11Z")
Rape apologist? I’m not the one suggesting that rape is a debatable subject. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4484 "2021-09-10T07:07:55Z")
Funny thing is… it’s still being debated. I guess that makes you a rape apologist! I honestly can’t believe knuckleheads like LHoD and crack head alec can hurl personal insults continuously in ATMB and I get barked at by your pal for merely mentioning the Pit which as far as I can tell is not in any of the 100 plus stickies that the rules are scattered in. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4485 "2021-09-10T07:17:14Z")
[https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/39891706/what-if-i-told-you-obvious-troll-is-obvious.jpg](https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/39891706/what-if-i-told-you-obvious-troll-is-obvious.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4486 "2021-09-10T07:33:45Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > and I get barked at by your pal for merely mentioning the Pit Oh, I see. This whole exchange is ultimately about you trying to pick a fight with What\_Exit because you’re miffed that you think he unfairly modded you in the concurrent ATMB thread. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4487 "2021-09-10T07:49:13Z")
Nah that’s not it I was surprised that mentioning the pit is now forbidden or something where’s the memo? And I just find it humorous that snark friends can level all sorts of personal insults in a thread with not a word. I understand if people don’t want to debate a particular topic. I wouldn’t find it productive to do so. But labeling folks pro rape in ATMB is a pretty dirty thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4488 "2021-09-10T08:09:06Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > {…} But labeling folks pro rape in ATMB is a pretty dirty thing to do. Yes, how dare people even suggest that declaring that rape is a debatable subject, as you have done, is a pro rape position. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4489 "2021-09-10T08:29:42Z")
Wow - that thread moved on a lot from the last time I checked. **Max\_S** _really_ needs to learn the value of stopping digging when you’re already in a hole. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4490 "2021-09-10T10:50:02Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > But labeling folks pro rape in ATMB is a pretty dirty thing to do. I neither did that, nor did I insult Senorbeef\*. But I’ll do so now: god, what a pompous self-righteous asshole he was in that thread. He wasn’t pro-rape, but he was absolutely diminishing and sneering at rape survivors. And when called on it, rather than saying, “Oh, shit, yeah, that was gross, sorry,” he was all “HOW DARE YOU IMPUGN MY HONOR” and turned his “BUT I’M A GOOD PERSON” schtick up to 11. He, incredibly, started saying he wasn’t even talking about rape and that we were trying to make it all about rape, as though we’d somehow forgotten that it was about a thread debating whether we would rape someone. Instead of admitting he’d been shitty and doing better, he had to keep inventing newer and stupider lies, and keep telling us he was a good person who wouldn’t do something shitty. \*Smartaleq did, but that’s on her. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4491 "2021-09-10T11:04:29Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I neither did that, nor did I insult Senorbeef Yeah you did. Why do you think the thread was closed? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4492 "2021-09-10T11:07:08Z")
Because the whole thread had turned into a massively unconstructive snipefest. That wasn’t down to one or two posters or one particular side of the argument. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4493 "2021-09-10T11:11:53Z")
There were one or two posters responsible for flinging most of the personal insults. @SmartAleq did not come off well in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4494 "2021-09-10T11:13:36Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Yeah you did. Quote it, you liar. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4495 "2021-09-10T11:14:37Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > And I just find it humorous that snark friends can level all sorts of personal insults in a thread with not a word. Yeah, those pernicious hive minders, insulting you without saying anything. Your 8 arms probe for anything to bitch about, even if it doesn’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4496 "2021-09-10T11:33:29Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > {…} Why do you think the thread was closed? You have access to the ‘mod loop’? COOL! ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4497 "2021-09-10T11:35:05Z")
🤫  ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4498 "2021-09-10T11:53:39Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > You just urban dictionaried me on a word that I used (and have been using for 20 years now). Putzplaining at its finest. Hell, the word _trifling_ was used in the song [Delia’s Gone](https://youtu.be/Y1iKEPzF1Js), which was written about a turn of the century (19th to 20th) murder, and Johnny Cash recorded his version in 1962, I think. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4499 "2021-09-10T12:13:24Z")
Totes not fair! Before octopus read Urban Dictionary he thought trifling meant this, [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/NEdzyUlfUPY/maxresdefault.jpg "How to Make English Trifle | Dessert Recipes | Allrecipes.com") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEdzyUlfUPY) We should encourage his newfound interest in new ideas! 🐝 ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/4500 "2021-09-10T12:25:09Z")
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