# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/483 "2020-08-23T20:24:36Z")

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Doubling down and saying the words you typed are not the words you typed- how would you classify that?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/484 "2020-08-23T20:24:46Z")

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> [@Harrington](#):
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> {…} Projecting that others are stupid necessarily means I’m not stupid.

Ahh, the alternate universe also has different rules of logic too!  
Good to know, good to know.  
CMC

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**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/485 "2020-08-23T20:25:41Z")

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You probably thought that was clever…

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/486 "2020-08-23T20:26:22Z")

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So you called someone a troll, thinking you were in ATMB?

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**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/487 "2020-08-23T20:26:57Z")

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Read the thread, I was called a troll first. Are you trolling?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/488 "2020-08-23T20:28:49Z")

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Nah, lots of people make mistakes. Smart people, stupid people, distracted people…

Only stupid people call others out for their own mistakes, and then double down on them, as you are doing.

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**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/489 "2020-08-23T20:29:59Z")

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And you too.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/490 "2020-08-23T20:30:16Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> It’s the bigots that define what slurs are by their usage.

👌

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**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/491 "2020-08-23T20:31:16Z")

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Nope. Pretty sure it’s greater society.

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**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/492 "2020-08-23T20:32:14Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Nah, lots of people make mistakes. Smart people, stupid people, distracted people…
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> Only stupid people call others out for their own mistakes, and then double down on them, as you are doing.

And who the fuck did I “call out” for my mistake?

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**Author:** ![Harrington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac8455/32.png) [@Harrington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harrington)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/493 "2020-08-23T20:35:47Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Doubling down and saying the words you typed are not the words you typed- how would you classify that?

Saying the words (I) typed are not the words (I) typed. Look, pal, if you can read it, I typed it. What’s the confusion?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/494 "2020-08-23T21:02:40Z")

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> [@Harrington](#):
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> Now this is how you troll! Well done, k9! However, I don’t believe this forum follows Pit rules, so…

I know it was two hours ago and all, but still.

You have managed to convince me, you are pretty stupid, _and_ you are a troll. They are not exclusive, just sometimes I give the benefit of the doubt to those who lack the intellectual capability of self reflection.

You choose to be this way, though. Why you would choose to make an ass of yourself in front of strangers, I do not know, and I only care if you are willing to pay me $150 an hour for counseling sessions.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/495 "2020-08-23T22:48:11Z")

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🍿

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/496 "2020-08-24T02:19:41Z")

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What’s with all the bird avatars? Not complaining, just asking…

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/497 "2020-08-24T03:30:26Z")

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I suspect fowl play

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/498 "2020-08-24T03:33:47Z")

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Talk is cheep?

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/499 "2020-08-24T10:57:25Z")

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> [@Harrington](#):
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> And I hope you’re forgiven for your mistakes in life, if you make any.

Personally, I make plenty. I also put the shovel down every so often.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/500 "2020-08-24T21:23:48Z")

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I came this close to calling @agzem a liar in P&E, but it’s not worth getting a warning over, so I’ll call him that here.

@agzem, you’re a fucking liar and a poor, disingenuous debater. You’re an idiot and an asshole who is defending the indefensible. Fuck you, the horse you rode in on, and anyone else who defends you or the political views you spew.

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**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/501 "2020-08-24T21:46:29Z")

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I cite my claims. What was the lie? If you can’t cite the lie then I will assume you are having a bad day.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/502 "2020-08-24T21:53:33Z")

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You lied about Michelle whatever being “pro-abortion” rather than pro-choice. You lied when you said that the Russian bounty program didn’t happen. That’s two from that thread.

You’re a fucking liar and a shitty debater. You also lied when you said that the writer of that article claimed that the Republicans are now pro-abortion, anti-gun, etc.

You’re a liar. A person who lies. Your pants are on fire. I understand why you lie – since so many people in your preferred party lie all the time, especially the head of your preferred party, you probably think it’s OK to do so, but I’m not as gullible as your average Trump supporter, so I’ll call you out on your lies. Plus, you have to lie in order to defend the disastrous policies (or, total lack of policies, often) your party puts forward.

You think that because Trump, Fox News, and their ilk can gaslight moronic Trump supporters like yourself that it will work here, outside of your little misinformation bubble, but it doesn’t.

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