# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/523 "2020-08-25T01:20:09Z")
So then you ok with pregnant women drinking and doing drugs during pregnancy? Her body her choice, right? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/524 "2020-08-25T01:24:59Z")
I think it’s a very bad idea, but it’s not against the law (for legal substances, anyway). And it shouldn’t be. Similarly, I think abortion can sometimes be wrong, but my feelings don’t matter. It’s not my body, and thus not my choice. Do you think it should be illegal for pregnant women to drink? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/525 "2020-08-25T01:25:21Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > So then you ok with pregnant women drinking and doing drugs during pregnancy? Her body her choice, right? If you want to be cartoonish, “So then you ok with law enforcement keeping close tabs on everything a pregnant woman does all through her term, including testing all of her food and drink for alcohol and drugs?” Recommendation: don’t argue from cartoonish perspectives. It’s so shallow. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/526 "2020-08-25T01:42:55Z")
Yes it actually is against the law > **[Substance Use During Pregnancy](https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/substance-use-during-pregnancy)** ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/527 "2020-08-25T01:43:54Z")
I think it’s a great idea for this fucking liar to turn this thread into an abortion thread instead of focusing on what a lying asshole he is. > [@BigT](#): > > Just wanted to point out this is why I don’t use the @ notation here or use direct links. No point in getting a troll’s attention and letting them troll in this thread. Man, is that ever true. I apologize to everyone here, except for the lying liar. He can go fuck himself. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/528 "2020-08-25T01:46:48Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I think it’s a great idea for this fucking liar to turn this thread into an abortion thread instead of focusing on what a lying asshole he is. Good point. He’s a liar who continues to lie and troll and shouldn’t be responded to. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/529 "2020-08-25T01:49:22Z")
If she CHOOSES to abort it before it can be viable, it is absolutely the woman’s choice. If she CHOOSES to have the child, then SHE is absolutely infringing on the rights of that child to develop properly. Why is this so hard for you to grasp? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/530 "2020-08-25T01:50:05Z")
Good point. I’ll ignore him here. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/531 "2020-08-25T02:26:45Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > If she CHOOSES to abort it before it can be **viable** , it is absolutely the woman’s choice. If she CHOOSES to have the **child** , then SHE is absolutely infringing on the rights of that **child** to develop properly. It’s a child after viability. We at least agree on that. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/533 "2020-08-25T17:15:09Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > > [@DMC](#): > > > > If you’re pregnant and you want to be pregnant, don’t get one. > > That’s like saying if you don’t like slavery then don’t own slaves. No, it’s like saying that choosing to have a baby is a choice. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/534 "2020-08-25T19:08:46Z")
Shouldn’t the baby get a choice? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/535 "2020-08-25T19:11:01Z")
Is an unborn fetus capable of choice? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/536 "2020-08-25T19:14:11Z")
Oh boy! Rehashing anti abortion arguments that weren’t even new when Roe was decided! Yeah, that’s some quality trolling! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/537 "2020-08-25T19:22:38Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Shouldn’t the baby get a choice? Same choice as the kid has after birth when Republicans want to shut down/defund the various assistance programs aimed at families with young children. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/538 "2020-08-25T19:33:43Z")
You have to call it “trolling” because you know you can’t defend abortion because there is no logical defense of abortion. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/539 "2020-08-25T19:35:22Z")
_YAWN_ (Yes, Discourse, that is my damn complete sentence, and all this tired argument warrants…) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/540 "2020-08-25T19:36:57Z")
Also, YAWN. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/541 "2020-08-25T19:42:01Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > Shouldn’t the baby get a choice? No. > [@agzem](#): > > You have to call it “trolling” because you know you can’t defend abortion because there is no logical defense of abortion. Yes there is. A woman’s right to choose is not only logical but morally superior to any religious zealotry your side can scare up. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/542 "2020-08-25T19:50:35Z")
I wish you guys would take some of your own advice from upthread and stop responding to this fucking dumbass troll. All that this dimbulb is doing is derailing the thread with his fucking trollery. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/543 "2020-08-25T19:55:38Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Is an unborn fetus capable of choice? Is a 1 year old capable of choice? What about a 2 year old? That some scary rationalization you are using there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=28)