# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/685 "2020-08-31T22:02:54Z")
That they were sexually assaulted. Not that you actually believe sexual assault to be a problem. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/686 "2020-08-31T22:09:44Z")
It was just “ole folksy Joe being Joe”, huh? Liberals have not learned anything. They even invited rapist Bill Clinton to speak at the DNC convention. The misogyny continues. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/687 "2020-08-31T22:12:11Z")
Cut it out. You’re a Trump supporter. Not only do you not view sexual assault as a problem, you likely a full-on supporter of it. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/688 "2020-08-31T22:16:14Z")
Sorry…the party that told us to “move on” and quit talking about sexual misconduct is still the party of misogyny. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/r5lTpmF924Y/maxresdefault.jpg "FLASHBACK Michelle Obama 'Harvey Weinstein is a Wonderful Human Being'") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5lTpmF924Y) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/689 "2020-08-31T22:21:26Z")
Four years before the shit hit the fan. Meanwhile, Trump was known about for decades because he bragged about it. If you actually think this is wrong, why do you support Trump? Or do you not actually believe it’s wrong, you just want an excuse to keep doing it? ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/690 "2020-08-31T22:24:26Z")
She knew. As did every other limousine liberal hypocrite. Weinstein’s behavior was known for years but the liberal/Hollywood cabal kept it secret. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/691 "2020-08-31T22:28:40Z")
[https://www.inkedmag.com/culture/5-vagina-recipes-food-to-make-with-vag-juice#gid=ci0234ffb820022695&pid=dsc06646](https://www.inkedmag.com/culture/5-vagina-recipes-food-to-make-with-vag-juice#gid=ci0234ffb820022695&pid=dsc06646) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/692 "2020-08-31T22:28:41Z")
Why don’t you fucking put up or shut up, you fucking liar. Not here, but in the original thread – provide a cite that Biden sexually assaulted seven women, again, not here – there. @running_coach, I can’t tell you what to do, but if you engage, this thread won’t be about trolls, it will be arguments about Weinstein, Trump, Clinton, Obama. Anyway, back to the liar, stop trying to derail this thread and provide a cite to back up your fucking lies in the other thread. If you don’t have a cite that Biden sexually assaulted 7 women, then retract it, you liar. Since we’re lying, I’ll lie right here: **agzem** fucks goats and has been convicted several times for bestiality. That claim is as valid as your lie about Biden. Liar. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/693 "2020-08-31T22:29:35Z")
Cite that she knew? [![](https://media.nu.nl/m/h09x2k7acdsd_wd1280.jpg/donald-trump-reageert-op-veroordeling-weinstein-was-nooit-fan-van-hem.jpg) ](https://media.nu.nl/m/h09x2k7acdsd_wd1280.jpg/donald-trump-reageert-op-veroordeling-weinstein-was-nooit-fan-van-hem.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/694 "2020-08-31T22:32:18Z")
I was minding my business not participating in this thread and you trolled me with a tag **YET AGAIN**. That is the only reason I am here. Sorry, but unwanted touching is **assault**. I’m assuming that you must be a male to not understand that. “Sexual assault is a crime. **It includes unwanted touchin** g, kissing, grabbing and rape.” [https://www.justice.gov.nt.ca/en/files/victim-services/Sexual%20Assault%20Presentation.pdf](https://www.justice.gov.nt.ca/en/files/victim-services/Sexual%20Assault%20Presentation.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/695 "2020-08-31T22:33:28Z")
Cites are for left wing snowflake pussies. He don’t need no stinking cites! He can just claim whatever and not back it up. Just like we can! **agzem** frequently has sex with his own mother. In fact, the term “motherfucker” was coined by his friends! ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/696 "2020-08-31T22:35:13Z")
I did not tag you. I tagged your post, and now your post has the word Troll under it. Excellent! I’m not going to argue with you here, liar. If you have a cite, put it there. Did you know that **agzem** gargles semen because he thinks it makes his breath smell nice? ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/697 "2020-08-31T22:37:09Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Did you know that **agzem** gargles semen because he thinks it makes his breath smell nice? Wow, that is mature. But I will continue to debunk your false claims. As I have yet again today. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/698 "2020-08-31T22:40:42Z")
> [@agzem](#): > > “Sexual assault is a crime. **It includes unwanted touchin** g, kissing, grabbing and rape.” Leave it to you to find [a definition aimed at _children_.](https://www.justice.gov.nt.ca/en/files/victim-services/Sexual%20Assault%20Presentation.pdf) 😆 > **[What Is Sexual Assault (and What Isn't), According to the Law](https://www.self.com/story/sexual-assault-definition)** > > What constitutes sexual assault is not always clear. > What does “sexual assault” actually mean? > > It’s actually harder to define than you’d think. According to the [United States Department of Justice](https://www.justice.gov/ovw/sexual-assault), sexual assault is “any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the [explicit consent](http://www.self.com/story/gabrielle-union-is-teaching-her-sons-affirmative-consent-heres-what-that-means) of the recipient.” Sexual assault is basically an umbrella term that includes sexual activities such as rape, fondling, and attempted rape. > > However, the legal definition varies depending on which state you’re in, and can even be different depending on where you were when the assault happened, Emily Austin, director of advocacy services for [California Coalition Against Sexual Assault](http://www.calcasa.org/), tells SELF. For example, she says, [sexual assault on college campuses](http://www.self.com/story/these-fake-college-acceptance-letters-make-a-sobering-point-about-sexual-assault) in California means a sex act that occurred without affirmative consent (which is described as active, voluntary participation), while California criminal law defines rape as nonconsensual sexual intercourse, and other laws govern different forms of sexual assault beyond intercourse. “It’s complex,” she admits. > > The definitions can vary because of the way in which our laws are made, explains Rebecca O’Connor, vice president of public policy at the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN), the largest anti-sexual assault organization in the U.S. “On the state level, because nothing is simple, the states have sovereignty over laws, and different legislatures and jurors have crafted different definitions of specific behaviors,” she tells SELF. Some states explicitly define rape or sexual assault and others may not, but fold that behavior under different terminology. “It runs the gamut,” she says, adding that states typically create these definitions with guidance from the Department of Justice. However, the details are crafted on a state level, often based on local cases that set a precedent for [how sexual assault is phrased and determined](http://www.self.com/story/the-netflix-documentary-audrie-and-daisy-will-change-how-you-see-sexual-assault). > > Generally, sexual assault falls into one of three categories. > Jennifer Gentile Long, the chief executive officer of AEquitas: The Prosecutors’ Resource on Violence Against Women, a global project she co-founded in April 2009, tells SELF those include: > > 1. Penetration crimes > > - Of a body part by another body part (i.e., penal penetration of mouth, anus, vagina) > - Of a body part by an object > > 1. Contact with genitalia, breast, buttocks, or other intimate body parts > 2. Exposure of genitalia, breast, buttocks or other intimate body parts > > According to Austin, sexual harassment can include sexual assault (such as rape and/or grabbing), but it’s also broader. Sexual harassment “includes creating a hostile environment, pervasive jokes/comments, looks, and body language that makes an individual feel harassed,” she says. But, again, the exact definition can vary by state. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/699 "2020-08-31T22:45:59Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Leave it to you to find a definition for _children_ . [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/V4PLSPvJ9BY/maxresdefault.jpg "Biden touching girls compilation (RAW CSPAN FOOTAGE)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PLSPvJ9BY) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/700 "2020-08-31T22:47:43Z")
What part of “contact with genitalia, breast, buttocks, or other intimate body parts” means “arms, shoulders, cheeks…”? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/701 "2020-08-31T22:47:52Z")
My grandma’s shoofly pie recipe. > **[My Grandma's Shoofly Pie](https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/15853/my-grandmas-shoo-fly-pie/)** > > This shoofly pie is a classic Pennsylvania Dutch recipe featuring a super rich filling made with brown sugar and molasses. Irresistible! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/702 "2020-08-31T22:49:10Z")
Recipe for Troll Soup > **[Troll Soup](http://ironoakfarm.blogspot.com/2013/10/troll-soup.html)** > > I love Japanese soups. I love miso soup and the onion broth soup with mushrooms that you often get at habachi restaurants. However, someti... ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/703 "2020-08-31T22:50:19Z")
Recipe for Bull Penis Stew > **[Bull penis stew recipe](https://www.greenprophet.com/2011/03/waste-not-want-not-bulls-penis-stew/)** > > People around the world eat the penises of bulls, sheep, and goats, without a quiver. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/704 "2020-08-31T22:50:59Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > What part of “contact with genitalia, breast, buttocks, or other intimate body parts” means “arms, shoulders, cheeks…”? “…Sexual assault is when someone **touches you in a way that is inappropriate and against your wishes** ” > **[Sexual Assault & Rape](https://oxme.info/health/sexual-assault-rape)** > > Rape and Sexual assault is when someone touches you in a way that is inappropriate and against your wishes (does not give consent), this is against the law. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=36)