# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1046 "2020-09-25T22:48:25Z")
That Whack-a-Sock banhammer is getting pretty bloody looking… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1047 "2020-09-26T00:08:43Z")
You should have seen the one with the spikes. _Nobody_ wanted to clean that thing. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1048 "2020-09-26T01:12:51Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > And according to his new title, banned for socking. Anybody have a guess as to who’s sock it was? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1049 "2020-09-26T01:18:52Z")
According to the mod I pm’d, he made up a sock immediately after getting suspended. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1050 "2020-09-26T03:28:36Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > he made up a sock immediately after getting suspended. That’ll do it. He’s gone for four years, _now_ he wants to participate – to the point of immediate banning? Sure sign of a troll, despite protestations to the contrary. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1051 "2020-09-26T03:50:25Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Some mods have reported puppeteers creating multiple socks, which the puppeteer would cycle through as each one gets banned. I can’t really recall any such case recently. It’s extremely rare for someone to stockpile socks. Usually they just make new ones when the previous one is banned. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1052 "2020-09-26T03:50:49Z")
In case I wasn’t clear, immediately upon his suspension _today_ he created a sock account. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1053 "2020-09-26T03:56:57Z")
Yeah, I got that. He wants to participate so much that he created a sock and immediately got banned. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1054 "2020-09-26T04:01:21Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Discobot, do you expect the Spanish Inquisition? > [@discobot](#): > > 🔮 It is decidedly so @discobot, with this comment, you have won the Internet along with my heart. Why won’t you love me back? ---
**Author:** ![discobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/discobot/32/570_2.png) [@discobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/discobot)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1055 "2020-09-26T04:01:24Z")
> 🗨 _Without leaps of imagination, or dreaming, we lose the excitement of possibilities. Dreaming, after all, is a form of planning._ — Gloria Steinem ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1056 "2020-09-26T04:02:04Z")
@discobot, are you saying I’m _boring_? Is that how you see me? ---
**Author:** ![discobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/discobot/32/570_2.png) [@discobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/discobot)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1057 "2020-09-26T04:02:06Z")
> 🔮 Outlook not so good ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1058 "2020-09-26T04:02:41Z")
A dagger! A dagger through my heart! 🔪 💔 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1059 "2020-09-27T08:36:04Z")
An “innocent” question from **razordance** goes south fast. > [@So what if Roe v. Wade is overturned?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-if-roe-v-wade-is-overturned/921653): > > That won’t mean abortion is illegal. All it means is that abortion, no longer enjoying constitutional protection, becomes an ordinary legislative issue. Which would be very bad for the Pubs electorally. I think that most Americans, even those who feel morally uncomfortable with abortion, still want the clinics to be there in case their daughters get pregnant, and they will express that preference in voting. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1060 "2020-09-27T12:04:53Z")
Yeah, that guy does a lot of JAQing off. I should probably just avoid his threads going forward. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1061 "2020-09-27T14:17:18Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > An “innocent” question from **razordance** goes south fast. I have no experience of this particular poster, and **RitterSport** might be right that he does a lot of JAQing off, but there’s nothing particularly trollish or even unreasonable about the issue that he raised in that thread. Activists on both sides of the abortion issue, as well as legal scholars and political scientists, have spent a considerable amount of time thinking about how the abortion debate and abortion politics in the United States would change if and when Roe gets overturned by the Supreme Court. And some have made arguments quite similar to those made by **razordance** : that removing the constitutional protection for abortion would have significant consequences for the debate, and might lead to a rather dramatic reorientation of priorities, as people who had previously taken abortion legality for granted are forced to confront the issue in the political sphere, and as some politicians are forced to take a more explicit stand rather than simply mouth some platitudes about Roe v. Wade being the law of the land. Poll after poll shows that the majority of Americans favors the right to abortion in at least some cases, and if Roe disappears, they will be forced to confront these issues at the ballot box rather than leaving them to the courts. I truly don’t know how this would actually shake out in practice, and it would doubtless be a political landscape that develops very differently in different states, and that takes some considerable time to become clear. But whether **razordance** ’s question is “innocent” or not, it gets at an important issue, and one that we might have to confront sooner rather than later if the Supreme Court continues in its current direction. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1062 "2020-09-27T14:25:06Z")
How about, “You rape ‘em, we scrape’ em”? Does that ping your troll detector any? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1063 "2020-09-27T14:26:25Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > But whether **razordance** ’s question is “innocent” or not, it gets at an important issue, and one that we might have to confront sooner rather than later if the Supreme Court continues in its current direction. Seems to me, he’s more interested in creating his own opportunities to post what he thinks are clever and edgy abortion jokes. How droll! He’ll burn out of he doesn’t pace himself posting these highly controversial ideas that he just can’t contain inside his ADHD brain. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1064 "2020-09-27T14:29:44Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > How about, “You rape ‘em, we scrape’ em”? > > Does that ping your troll detector any? > [@QuickSilver](#): > > Seems to me, he’s more interested in creating his own opportunities to post what he thinks are clever and edgy abortion jokes. Fair enough. I didn’t read the whole thread. I read the OP, which is what was quoted for this thread, and which was relatively unobjectionable. If someone wants to give an example of trolling, then quoting the actual trollish posts, or describing the actual trollish behavior, would probably be a good start. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1065 "2020-09-27T14:50:09Z")
You’ve been around long enough to get a feeling about posters. You know the type. They rush in all abuzz with a dozen hot topics they just can’t wait to dump on a whole new audience just so he can follow up with edgy, juvenile commentary, thinking anybody is going to be impressed or amused because what’s new to him must be new to everybody else. His ban countdown clock has already started. Only a matter of time before he runs out of material and resorts to full on trollery. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=52) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=54)