# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1147 "2020-10-01T06:54:00Z")
Who (what?) are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1148 "2020-10-01T10:37:30Z")
Why is there even an option to ignore for a different time period than “Forever”? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1149 "2020-10-01T10:58:59Z")
I always read it that way too! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1150 "2020-10-01T11:05:35Z")
In other news, [WTF was this about](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/race-income-illegitimacy-rates-incarceration-rates-teen-pregnancy-rates-educational-achievement/921824)? Glad to see it closed (and I thoroughly agree with the reason) but still, where did that come from? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1151 "2020-10-01T12:04:47Z")
My guess is that Damuri was shut down on that topic in all other forums, so he tried sneaking it in to MPSIMS. Maybe he’ll try to think of a way to make black inferiority a topic in Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1152 "2020-10-01T13:25:31Z")
It would a difficult case to make about food or music… Maybe collard greens? That stuff is nasty, but maybe that’s just a Southern dish. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1153 "2020-10-01T13:43:48Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > Why is there even an option to ignore for a different time period than “Forever”? When people were losing their shit over “the worst thing ever” (the move to discourse), I decided to put all the “I’m done with this place” flouncers on my ignore list forever, but one actually had the presence of mind to opine (admit) that they might be back in a few months, so I only put them on ignore for a year. So that’s an example. When someone qualifies their implied request to be ignored with a time limit. I like to reward that kind of self awareness. Anyway, speaking of people on my ignore list… > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > My guess is that Damuri was shut down on that topic in all other forums, so he tried sneaking it in to MPSIMS. Maybe he’ll try to think of a way to make black inferiority a topic in Cafe Society. Is he pooping in other forums again? And here I thought we got @damuriajashi potty-trained to shit in his own thread like a good little troll: > [@Damuri Ajashi, you are a moronic troglodyte of a crackpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/259): > > Are he & Aji\_de\_Gallina the Stinky & Smelly Twins, or just separated at birth? I honestly can’t tell them or their posts apart. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1154 "2020-10-01T13:58:58Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > It would a difficult case to make about food or music… At the risk of opening the “blacks cut down their own people, so shouldn’t it be OK for whites” can of worms, here’s [Uncle Ruckus from the Boondocks](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0763128/characters/nm0930637) commenting on black artists. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1155 "2020-10-01T14:18:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > In other news, [WTF was this about](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/race-income-illegitimacy-rates-incarceration-rates-teen-pregnancy-rates-educational-achievement/921824)? > > Glad to see it closed (and I thoroughly agree with the reason) but still, where did that come from? I get the feeling that none of you actually read the post. I was countering arguments we see on this board that try to associate black/white disparity in things like income to disparites in things like illegitimacy rates instead of racism. I presented the argument presented by people who explain black/white disparity is not the result of racism because things like illegitimacy fully explains these disparities Then I pointed out that similar disparities in illegitimacy etc exist between whites and asians but the disparities in income, etc. do not seem to exist there. So I was saying that there must be something else and i think that something else is racism. Both negative racism towards blacks (and probably asians) and privilege directed towards whites. I just wanted to share that point. But somehow, despite the fact that the illegitimacy argument is presented repeatedly on this board, people thought my post was an attempt to disparage black people or racism or something like that. I don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1156 "2020-10-01T20:08:45Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > **FP** : Why call yourself **Fiddle\_Peghead** when that’s a banjo? Because the fiddle shaped peghead for a banjo is my favorite. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1157 "2020-10-02T01:43:23Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Check out the “Donald Trump, Tax Evader” thread and MrMrrmmrmrwhatever. There’s a cluster of posts, but Post 178 (if I’ve counted correctly) is one of the most sealionest things I’ve seen here in a while. Evidently this one is full of straw. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1158 "2020-10-02T06:57:10Z")
Sounds uncomfortably close to “sock puppet”, doesn’t it? > **[Zack\_Poppet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zack_poppet/summary)** ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1159 "2020-10-02T18:29:55Z")
It does, but that takes “hiding in plain sight” to a new level involving a loudspeaker truck, clown shoes, and large neon signs. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1160 "2020-10-02T19:55:30Z")
Related to our new possible sock puppet, I’d like to commend kaylasdad for trolling the board with his “welcome to the community” posts. Irate that no one agreed with [his complaint about discobot posting welcome messages,](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/suggestion-for-guidance-to-newly-minted-dopers/921093) he decided to take the passive-aggressive route. > [@Trump and Melania test positive for COVID-19](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-melania-test-positive-for-covid-19/922010/43): > > Welcome to our community, Zack\_Poppet! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1161 "2020-10-02T22:10:08Z")
Just following instructions. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1162 "2020-10-02T22:52:40Z")
Hey, I commended you! ETA: I didn’t say it was _bad_ trolling. I chuckled. (But it’s still trolling.) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1163 "2020-10-03T20:23:01Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > ETA: I didn’t say it was _bad_ trolling. I chuckled. (But it’s still trolling.) I can’t really see it as trolling, for two reasons. One, it’s not about pissing people off but making a point. For the mods to sanction him, they’d have to admit that people shouldn’t follow discobot’s message, which is a good argument for changing said message. To me, the term trolling is reserved for those who post just to make people upset. But, more importantly, welcoming posters is actually something we’ve been doing here for a long time. Sure, if everyone did it, it’s annoying. But it’s usually just one or two posters who say it, and then the thread goes on. At most, I’d expect the mods to tell him to give other people a chance, or to try and include a response to the thread in addition to the welcome. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1164 "2020-10-03T20:34:09Z")
Anyways, I got distracted by the FP show, and almost forgot the reason I came here. I think we now can tell that Tim\_R.Mortiss is trolling. He’s been pretty trolly in his support of Trump, bringing it up in this snarky manner in threads talking about bad things Trump has done that seems designed to try and piss people off… But it was just on this side of plausible that he was legitimately upset at people being mean to Trump. But trying to act like it would even possibly make sense to blame Obama for the pandemic that happened in 2020 on Trump’s watch after he had defunded the federal department for pandemic response? It’s too stupid. > [@](#): > > **Tim\_R.Mortis:** > > On the other hand, nobody blames Obama for the Pandemic. So I guess only GOOD things get credited to the previous POTUS, and all BAD things get credited to the current POTUS. Funny how that works. Sorry there’s no link: I’m sticking with my policy of not inviting the trolls here to troll the thread. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1165 "2020-10-03T20:39:07Z")
I don’t know if it’s exactly trolling, but this “forfyv” (reference to 45?) guy is pretty pushy for having joined 2 hours ago. Posted in only one thread, only partially sensible, and is very aggressive to anyone that doesn’t say what he wants them to say. Sadly, it’s a topic that I wouldn’t mind perusing, but the rules laid down before one is allowed to participate are a bit much. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1166 "2020-10-03T20:50:19Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I don’t know if it’s exactly trolling, but this “forfyv” (reference to 45?) guy is pretty pushy for having joined 2 hours ago. Those posts read like a trock who is trying to establish a new board personality to avoid being detected but hasn’t quite got there. I have no guesses as to who the puppeteer might be; could be any recently banned sealion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=59)