# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1607 "2020-11-11T19:07:58Z")

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[Good job, **What Exit**! Good riddance!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kearsen1-banned-for-trolling-and-cursing-out-a-mod/925357)

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1608 "2020-11-11T19:25:31Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Good job, **What Exit**! Good riddance! &nbsp;

And thank you, **What Exit** , for the detailed explanation. You set a good example.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1609 "2020-11-11T20:40:02Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Good job, **What Exit**! Good riddance!

> [@Pleonast](#):
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> And thank you, **What Exit** , for the detailed explanation. You set a good example.

Thank you both, believe it or not, I was trying to help Kearsen1 show he wasn’t just a troll. When the report came in I was unaware of his history. But the JAQing looked pretty likely. If he met me part way, he would have been fine. But the flagger(s) were correct, he was trolling.

I should probably do a user’s history check sooner next time. I’m still learning.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1610 "2020-11-11T20:46:12Z")

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Troll or not, there is no excuse for cursing out a mod.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1611 "2020-11-11T20:50:50Z")

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Yeah, he lost his temper apparently. (Or wanted to get banned) There are many possible responses that could have justified his position, or respectfully disagreed with the moderation. I’m a bit of contrarian myself, but “fuck you, I’m not going to comply” isn’t tolerated and shouldn’t be.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1612 "2020-11-12T18:43:43Z")

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Suicide by mod.

His trolling was not working anymore, so he decided to go out in flames.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1613 "2020-11-12T18:50:49Z")

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People wonder “why are there not more posters here on the SDMB that post right wing ideas? Why is this board so left-leaning?”

Well, because so many right wing posters are like our boy Kearsten1. The post stupid shit, unsupported by any factual evidence, and then when asked to provide cites or backup, simply degenerate into “I can say whatever I want, so fuck you”

This has become the way the right wing conducts itself now. The right wing posters have gotten themselves banned because they are acting like lying deranged lunatics that believe every nutty bit of bullshit or conspiracy theory fed to them by the increasingly reality-challenged right wing media that they consume. And when called on this, or asked to provide evidence, they simply follow their Dear Leader and spew insults.

Is it any wonder that there is a paucity of them here, where this is simply unacceptable behaviour?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1614 "2020-11-12T20:30:20Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> The right wing posters have gotten themselves banned

And the rational ones have either left on their own accord or stay the hell out of Trump-related thread because they know he’s indefensible.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1615 "2020-11-12T20:41:10Z")

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And, some posters that used to seem more conservative now seem more liberal as the Republican Party goes off the deep end. For example, my early impressions of **Little Nemo** and **SenorBeef** were that they were center-right, but not anymore.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1616 "2020-11-12T20:45:27Z")

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Unless I’ve confused **SenorBeef** with another poster, isn’t he a huge Bernie-bro?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1617 "2020-11-12T20:46:32Z")

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He is! But, back in the day, like 10-15 years ago, he definitely came across as center right to me.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1618 "2020-11-12T20:48:27Z")

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Well, let’s just call it progress, of a kind.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1619 "2020-11-13T00:24:22Z")

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[I somehow don’t think **sbright33** is very bright.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-math/925432)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1620 "2020-11-13T00:28:23Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> **sbright33**

Given the numbers fixation, I’m guessing somewhere on the Autism spectrum.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1621 "2020-11-13T00:32:12Z")

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No, he’s just a troll.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1622 "2020-11-13T13:20:48Z")

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He **sbright** posted lots of non-election stuff first. He’s definitely playing the tedious Asbergery wanker role. Whether that’s his real personality or that was his cover story remains to be seen. The couple of times folks have out-mathed him, even about election stuff, he’s quickly backed down. That’s an encouraging sign he’s just a useless goof, not a malign actor. We shall see.

One thing’s for sure: if he’s a troll he’ll burst & fade like a firework real soon.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1623 "2020-11-13T17:02:37Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> That’s an encouraging sign he’s just a useless goof, not a malign actor.

IDK. Part of the art of trolling is to get your prey to take the bait and string it along for as long as possible. The slow burn, rather than the catastrophic explosion that promptly blows the thread asunder. That entails giving room for other posters to hope you are sincere. Kind of like with concern trolling, but more generalized. It could be that he’s open-minded, but more likely (I think) it’s just paying out a little more in the hope you’ll bite. Put in the extra bit of effort since it seems he’s “so close” to seeing reason. To not give up on him.

Disclaimer: I know this by observation, not by practice.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1624 "2020-11-13T17:34:52Z")

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Agree that his signs are ambiguous. And that the very most skilled trolls can play a whole crowd like a fiddle despite each crowd member’s different individual tolerances. pay out _just_ enough line and reel in _juuust_ hard enough to keep resetting the hook. etc.

I’d already lost interest in his craptacular math sense. So him branching out from math-as-math to math-as-RW-political-JAQing didn’t bring me back into his sphere.

He’ll live or die on his own efforts. IOW: Not my circus; not my monkeys.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1625 "2020-11-15T11:45:41Z")

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**[Enjoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-apprentice-mods/925456/39)[\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-not-wear-masks-forever/925019/85)** seems like a _real_ keeper…

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1626 "2020-11-15T14:17:01Z")

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Special idiot right out of the gate.

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