# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1687 "2020-11-19T15:12:22Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> So not a misspelling then? And your username was the first word in the sentence so they may have capitalized for that reason

That is a distinct possibility.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1688 "2020-11-19T15:14:11Z")

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I’ve actually wondered whether to capitalize a username or other proper name that is lower case when it’s the first word of a sentence. Usually, I try to re-write so it’s no longer the first word.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1689 "2020-11-19T15:15:45Z")

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**kayaker** is my username.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1690 "2020-11-19T15:16:56Z")

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I thought about that, but then I thought, “Who could possibly be insulted by having their name capitalized, especially if it was at the beginning of the sentence?”  
Now I know.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1691 "2020-11-19T15:19:22Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I thought about that, but then I thought, “Who could possibly be insulted by having their name capitalized, especially if it was at the beginning of the sentence?”  
> Now I know. -

**doorhinge** would become unhinged when his name was capitalized.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1692 "2020-11-19T15:22:34Z")

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When was **doorhinge** ever hinged in the first place?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1693 "2020-11-19T15:33:03Z")

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You’re doing it right. It’s a proper name (so to speak), so you don’t capitalize it anywhere if the person whose name it is does not capitalize it. Rewriting so it isn’t the first word is the preferred workaround, but if it isn’t possible, you write the name the same way the person does, lack of caps and all.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1694 "2020-11-19T15:38:54Z")

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To “E” or not to “E”, that was the question.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1695 "2020-11-19T15:41:23Z")

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Man, you must get _pissed_ when someone calls it the Democrat party.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1696 "2020-11-19T15:43:01Z")

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democrat party.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1697 "2020-11-19T15:46:50Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> It’s a proper name (so to speak), so you don’t capitalize it anywhere if the person whose name it is does not capitalize it. Rewriting so it isn’t the first word is the preferred workaround, but if it isn’t possible, you write the name the same way the person does, lack of caps and all.

Thank you for the correction to my _grammatical_ error. I just found it surprising that someone would consider a mistake of that type to be a deliberate insult.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1698 "2020-11-19T15:49:15Z")

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You and me are gonna go at recess.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1699 "2020-11-19T15:50:10Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> You and me are gonna go at recess

I’ll hold your glasses.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1700 "2020-11-19T15:50:21Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> my first post. IIRC it was about Nietzsche

Did you sign up to say nothing?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1701 "2020-11-19T15:51:36Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Did you sign up to say nothing?

It was an obituary.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1702 "2020-11-19T16:59:39Z")

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Omg. I found it.

> [@On the Reality of the Existentialist Lifestyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-reality-of-the-existentialist-lifestyle/435767):
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> This post is about existentialism, not as a philosophical concept but as a way of life. If one were to say, ‘‘What is your religion?’’ I would respond that I am Buddhist. But underlying that sense of devout belief in Buddhist philosophy is a greater truth: I am an existentialist. My first encounter with existentialism happened my freshman year of college when I took a course on Friedrich Nietzsche. Our professor introduced this strange, morose, enigmatic man with the following passage: P…

I still love that passage from _The Gay Science._

It’s not completely bonkers, but it reminds me of how messed up I was back then. It was a long, hard road to become the person that I am today.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1703 "2020-11-19T17:45:02Z")

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You should have used the @Czarcasm feature. You look more internet savvy that way.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1704 "2020-11-19T17:47:37Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Omg. I found it.
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> [On the Reality of the Existentialist Lifestyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-reality-of-the-existentialist-lifestyle/435767)
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> I still love that passage from _The Gay Science._
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> It’s not completely bonkers, but it reminds me of how messed up I was back then. It was a long, hard road to become the person that I am today.

Please don’t be offended, but TL;DR. That said, I’m impressed at the confidence you displayed by making your first post an actual OP. My posting history is still downloading, but IIRC, it was several weeks between my first post, and my first OP.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1705 "2020-11-19T17:55:58Z")

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I _think_ it was my first post but I can’t actually remember. 2008 feels like ages ago.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1706 "2020-11-19T18:15:59Z")

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My first post was also an OP. It’s also a relic of the pre YouTube days, where you can now see the footage! (Before it gets taken down again)

> [@Has there been a "live" suicide on American TV?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-there-been-a-live-suicide-on-american-tv/74132):
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> I remember reading about a FL newswoman killing herself during a broadcast in the introduction to Harlan Ellison’s collection “Strange Wine.” He claims that she said something like: “In keeping with Channel 11’s policy of bringing you the latest in blood and death, here is an actual first: a live suicide.” I have never heard any confirmation/denial that such a thing occurred other than the Ellison source and I was thinking that someone amongst the Teeming Millions would be able to either verif…

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