# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 88
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1747 "2020-11-21T04:25:01Z")
Awww. I liked that guy! ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1748 "2020-11-21T04:26:59Z")
[![](https://morbotron.com/meme/S03E04/610909.jpg?b64lines=IEd1bWJlcmN1bGVzPyBJIGxvdmUKIHRoYXQgZ3V5Lg==) ](https://morbotron.com/meme/S03E04/610909.jpg?b64lines=IEd1bWJlcmN1bGVzPyBJIGxvdmUKIHRoYXQgZ3V5Lg==) ---
**Author:** ![truthseeker3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@truthseeker3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthseeker3)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1749 "2020-11-21T10:38:02Z")
Well, I’ve been thinking that it might be easier to make friends if I wasn’t **quite** so invisible. ---
**Author:** ![truthseeker3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e68b1a/32.png) [@truthseeker3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthseeker3)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1750 "2020-11-21T10:38:51Z")
Maybe - if I find it, I’ll let you know. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1751 "2020-11-21T17:25:39Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Banning myself was a bit surreal. Kind of reminds me of an episode in _The Dick VanDyke_ show – dear god, fifty years ago – where Laura was hired to work in the Alan Brady writers’ department and it didn’t work out. **Laura:** Well, if you don’t like my work I’m – I’m _firing_ myself! **Rob:** You can’t fire – I’m _quitting_ you! ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1752 "2020-12-01T05:40:45Z")
Now that this thread is in a lull, I’ll respond with something I thought about weeks ago, when we were mocking Velocity’s god thread: > Wouldn’t it be great if when he dies he finds out that God is a refrigerator and Jesus a clothes dryer? Hey, I’ll settle for that… I mean, a refrigerator full of Belgian ales… and a dryer tumbling a sweatshirt you’re about to put on while it’s toasty! ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1753 "2020-12-01T13:18:09Z")
> [@digs](#): > > a dryer tumbling a sweatshirt you’re about to put on while it’s toasty! Its love would be boundless. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1754 "2020-12-01T17:30:41Z")
Some rather obvious disingenuous posting by DemonTree. Sure, let’s bring up the thing that you know we can’t talk about and heavily imply that the only reason it can’t be discussed is political. Write it in such a way that rules prevent us from debunking the clear implication. This is a textbook way to promote a position without directly arguing for it. I’ve heard it called concern trolling, and it is similar, but people seem to want to debate about what that term really means. What it definitely is is one of the tactics from the Alt-Right Playbook, using insinuation rather than direct posts to make arguments with plausible deniability. There just is no way that someone legitimately asking this question would pick the topic they knew for sure no one would be allowed to argue against. And I have first hand knowledge of DemonTree using clearly disingenuous tactics, like making up things people didn’t say or misrepresenting things to make arguments. I was willing before to think that it was all just her getting emotional while being very interested in PC-related topics. But this sort of disingenuousness requires deliberate planning. She’s a troll. And I’m disappointed that the mods let her get away with such an OP. “What if [racist thing] were true? Would it be okay to hide it?” is pretty obviously implying that [racist thing] is true. And it’s not even like those engaging don’t seem to notice, as they keep bringing up race-related stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1755 "2020-12-01T18:18:55Z")
After seeing some more of SayTwo’s posts in the [Atlas Shrugged](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlas-shrugged/926876) thread, I concur that this person is a troll. Or an idiot. Probably both. I’m giving some serious consideration to killfiling it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1756 "2020-12-01T18:19:58Z")
One too many "Some people say"s. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1757 "2020-12-01T18:44:36Z")
Pretty much any poster who responds to a 2+ paragraph post with a vague 5 word post that sorta kinda bears maybe on some of what was said is just causing problems. JCPing is like JAQing, but has no actual "?"s in it and is a passive aggressive form of trolling. It’s nothing more than “Neener!” using more adult words. Both **DemonTree** & **SayTwo** seem to specialize in JCPing in between occasional more substantive posts. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1758 "2020-12-01T19:52:49Z")
OK, JCP is a new one for me. Is it “Just Concern Posting”? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1759 "2020-12-01T19:54:57Z")
“just causing problems” is a phrase in the previous sentence of that post, so I eventually figured out that that’s probably what “JCP” means. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1760 "2020-12-01T20:10:34Z")
Sorry; should’ve capitalized it on first use. I was inventing my justification for my accidentally created new buzzphrase as I was going along. It may or may not have legs. Probably not. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1761 "2020-12-01T20:12:40Z")
Soooo…it _doesn’t_ mean “Jesus Christ on a Pogo-Stick”? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1762 "2020-12-01T20:13:52Z")
I read it as “JC Penney”, which is only slightly rarer these days than the big man himself on a pogo stick. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1763 "2020-12-01T20:24:57Z")
I read it as PCP so… ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1764 "2020-12-01T20:30:06Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Soooo…it _doesn’t_ mean “Jesus Christ on a Pogo-Stick”? He whispered, “My precious child, I love you and will never leave you Never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I was riding the pogo-stick.” ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1765 "2020-12-01T20:59:41Z")
You could have been sensible and avoided the thread completely, based on the obvious troll-like nature of the title. Or are you one of those people who has to protect the world from bad ideas by beating them with a club at every opportunity? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1766 "2020-12-01T21:18:11Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Or are you one of those people who has to protect the world from bad ideas by beating them with a club at every opportunity? Yes!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=87) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349.md?page=89)