# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 98
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1947 "2020-12-17T18:07:18Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > You decided he was wrong without ever looking into it. Delightful as always. No matter what I say, you’ll find a shitty misrepresentation of it. This is the sort of disingenuous posting I’m talking about. You’re a blight on the board. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1948 "2020-12-17T18:08:22Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Well, I have found before that it does distract, specially when there are issues about racism, some past banned posters just assumed that I was therefore an idiot as I was the "wrong"race. That sucks. But Damuri is probably assuming you’re another overly woke white person, which isn’t going to make him more sympathetic. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1949 "2020-12-17T18:08:46Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I accused him of calling people racist if they support affirmative action. It turns out I gave him too much credit: he called me racist (and personalized it with a super-shitty accusation about my professional ethics) _because I suggested he called people racist_ . I’m sorry did I offend you? Well, welcome to the pit you racist motherfucker. I feel sorry for your asian students because you obviously value their efforts and sacrifices less than your students of other races. Your racism contributes to institutional racism against asians and I am sick of woke white people telling me I have to be more polite about how I object to anti-asian racism. You are a racist, you have displayed your racism in enough other threads that your participation in this one is not necessary to establish the fact that you are a racist. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1950 "2020-12-17T18:09:06Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > Done with the pit for now. Lasted less than an hour. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1951 "2020-12-17T18:09:58Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > You decided he was wrong without ever looking into it. Uh, he can be saying that that thread is not worth it. As in: all did not acted so good over there. His point was about damur showing that he is reaching for the “racist” accusation for people that did not participate in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1952 "2020-12-17T18:10:15Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > So what actual facts did you examine? The medical community’s research which overwhelmingly shows that allowing trans people to transition saves lives. The near total absence of any actual cases of trans woman on cis woman violence as opposed to numerous cases of trans people being victims of violence And of course the fact that the hivemind would kick me out if I disagreed (that last one is sarcasm) ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1953 "2020-12-17T18:10:20Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Lasted less than an hour. They keep pulling me back in. It’s a slow Thursday and I’m a glutton for punishment. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1954 "2020-12-17T18:11:09Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > I’m sorry did I offend you? On the contrary; when people show who they are, I appreciate it. Your shitty personalization of the argument is obviously nonsense, but it helps to build the case that you’re a toxic turd who has no place on the board, and I encourage you to continue in this vein. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1955 "2020-12-17T18:11:45Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Delightful as always. No matter what I say, you’ll find a shitty misrepresentation of it. This is the sort of disingenuous posting I’m talking about. You’re a blight on the board. Well what were you trying to say, then? As far as I can see, you accused him of being unreasonable for saying a particular instance of affirmative action was racist, even though he has a pretty convincing argument that it is, which you have never addressed. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1956 "2020-12-17T18:11:51Z")
Perhaps you should change your tune and/or [dance partner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_takes_two_to_tango). Not that I’m volunteering. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1957 "2020-12-17T18:14:14Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Well what were you trying to say, then? No, asshole, you don’t get to make a dumbshit nasty accusation against me and then be all “WHAT WERE YOU SAYING THEN?” Anyone who’s honestly unclear on what I’m saying and doesn’t preface it with the sort of dishonest shit you’ve been engaging in is welcome to ask for clarification, but I’ve no interest in continuing to give you fodder for your dishonesty. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1958 "2020-12-17T18:22:10Z")
YOU made a dumbshit nasty accusation against me. I’ve given you way more benefit of the doubt than you deserve, and… ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1959 "2020-12-17T18:23:27Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > This is worth paying attention to, for anyone who is still questioning whether Damuri is worth talking with. I accused him of calling people racist if they support affirmative action. It turns out I gave him too much credit: he called me racist (and personalized it with a super-shitty accusation about my professional ethics) _because I suggested he called people racist_ . I reported that shit. I’m trying to report things more. That utter clusterfuck of a thread seemed a damned good place to start. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1960 "2020-12-17T18:24:33Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/mjrvamZsbiw/hqdefault.jpg "What a Whiner") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjrvamZsbiw) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1961 "2020-12-17T18:24:57Z")
What the heck are you talking about? He called out DA for accusing people of racism for opposing Affirmitive Action, and DA responded by calling him a racist. He didn’t make a “dumbshit nasty accusation”, YOU did. So much for “evidence based” arguments, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1962 "2020-12-17T18:27:30Z")
Heh. “Closing threads” is now a closed thread. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1963 "2020-12-17T18:30:38Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > What the heck are you talking about? He called out DA for accusing people of racism for opposing Affirmitive Action, and DA responded by calling him a racist. He didn’t make a “dumbshit nasty accusation”, YOU did. > > So much for “evidence based” arguments, huh? He accused me of disingenuousness. And at that point DA was saying it was structural racism, not the personal-enmity kind. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1964 "2020-12-17T18:31:43Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > He accused me of disingenuousness. Possibly because you were posting things about him without bothering to cite or otherwise support your characterization of him in any way? ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1965 "2020-12-17T18:32:30Z")
What was I posting about him? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1966 "2020-12-17T18:34:01Z")
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