# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

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**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/1406 "2020-10-17T00:14:57Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Which side has thrown Molotov cocktails at police, have burned police precincts, and have caused businesses an municipalities 10s of millions of damage from rioting and opportunistic looting?

Number of people shot by police since 2011: 4,391

> **[Lists of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States)**
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> Below are lists of people killed by law enforcement in the United States, both on duty and off duty.
> Although Congress instructed the Attorney General in 1994 to compile and publish annual statistics on police use of excessive force, this was never carried out, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation does not collect these data.
> The annual average number of justifiable homicides alone was previously estimated to be near 400. Updated estimates from the Bureau of Justice Statistics released i...

Average age of those killed: 35 (eyeballing this one)

> **[People shot to death by U.S. police, by age group 2024 | Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/585155/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-age-group/)**
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> As of January 25, 16 people aged 45 years and over were fatally shot by U.S.

Average productive value, per year, US Citizen: $57 (2010 figures)

> **[What Is the Average Worker's Effective Productivity Rate?](https://smallbusiness.chron.com/average-workers-effective-productivity-rate-18220.html)**
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> The gross domestic product (GDP) is one of the most widely used economic statistics in the world. It is the monetary value of a country's total economic output, with the figure adjusted to account for inflation. Average GDP per labor hour provides an...

Average # of Hours Worked per Year, US: 1,768

[Average Working Hours Statistics (2023)](https://clockify.me/working-hours#:~:text=Working%20hours%20in%20US,those%20working%20in%20the%20US).

Retirement age: 65 (not providing a cite, thanks)

Total Productive value lost by Police Killings:

#DeathsXProductivityPerHourXHoursLostDueToBeingShotByThePolice

= 4,391 X $57 X (1,768 X 30)  
= 4,391 X $57 X (53,040)  
= $22,354,062,480

By murdering US citizens, police enforcement has destroyed $22,354,062,480 of American productivity. The shareholders will not be pleased.

… anyway, what were you saying about monetary damages?

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