# Trolls R Us redux \[Now the argument clinic\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349 "2020-06-27T06:30:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux-now-the-argument-clinic/913349/2020 "2020-12-17T20:54:23Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Ok, you self righteous prick, get it through your thick skull: people aren’t opposed to you because of your political beliefs. They are opposed to you because you are a raging prolapsed asshole. Get over yourself.

I understand that you would like me to be more cordial and polite about your racism toward people like my children but I have no more fucks to give for your sensitivities and fragile egos. If you are racist, the least I can do is make it crystal fucking clear why you are a racist.

> [@Babale](#):
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> One more time in all caps: PEOPLE AREN’T OPPOSED TO YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR POLITICAL BELIEFS. YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM HERE. NO ONE (EXCEPT POSSIBLY DEMONTREE) IS BUYING YOUR WOE IS ME ACT. THAT IS ALL.

That’s because you’re a racist. You may be coming around to the realization that there are aspects of affirmative action that are indeed racist but you didn’t get there because deferred to your privileged white ass. Demanding that minorities control their tone and remain polite in the face of racism is a pretty big ask.

I’M NOT A DICK BECAUSE OF MY POLITICAL BELIEFS I AM A DICK TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE BEING RACIST AND INSISTING THAT YOU ARE DOING TI IN THE NAME OF SOCIAL JUSTICE.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> You can absolutely suggest whatever you’d like. Your fundamental lack of integrity, coupled with a really terrible ability to understand what people write, renders your suggestions worthless.

So that’s a “no” then?

Listen, you can choose to stop being racist at any point. It is entirely up to you, this is why being a racist is so horrible, it is a choice you make and you are choosing to be a horrible thing. It is forgivable when you don’t realize how horrible you are but once it is pointed out to you the response shouldn’t be that I’m being too rude in how I point out your racism. Should it?

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> You inaccurately characterized what I said, and you’re still doing it. I think it’s because you’re too stupid to recognize and respond to any sort of nuance – all you can do is slot disagreement into “evil racist woke hive” or whatever.

I posted your words where you seem to be saying that throwing a few asian kids under the bus (mostly for the benefit of white kids) is OK because it results in some black and hispanic kids getting into a program they otherwise wouldn’t qualify for. That’s racism. You are a racist. You might not like the label but it is accurate.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This is probably the reason you get so much push back, and you’re continually moderated for emotional outbursts

I’m sorry that I’m not more polite when arguing with racists. John Lewis used to be very good at it but the man was a saint. I’m just a man with feet of clay. You’re just a privileged white racist that insists that I think about your fucking feelings as I argue with you about your racism against children that look like me.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> So I’d recommend you take a break for a while.

I would suggest you stop being racist. You will see my demeanor change almost overnight. I engage in other threads about sports and even in other great debates about things like taxes and the economy and I can be pretty dispassionate. But dealing with racists and their racist arguments just rubs me the wrong way.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I pointed out this behavior here, and he accuses me of treating Asian students with contempt.

Yes, because you are racist. You think it’s OK to discriminate against asians in favor of others. At the root of this sentiment is that asians can afford it somehow.

> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> But I guess that’s for mods to sort out.

I think they just closed the thread.

> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I’ve seen you make the argument that people keep provoking you into insulting them. This cannot fly. We are all responsible for what we do or say regardless of what is done or said to us. I truly believe this. And refusing to play that game has the added benefit of winning people over.

And my argument was that moderators step in before the provocation leads to a response.

It’s easy to ignore one idiot trying to provoke you. It’s harder when there is a dogpile of folks provoking you.

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