# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 113
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6720 "2022-07-21T21:04:29Z")
I’m just confused why he wrote it like it was two different users, wasn’t it **Shodan** for who the last straw was Harpy? For what it is worth, calling a Republican the C-Word outside the Pit should draw a modnote or warning. Though it needs to be reported of course. More about misogyny than just using the C-Word. I have vague memories of Marjorie Taylor Greene being called something misogynistic and it drew a note or warning. I don’t recall which. Found what I was thinking of: > [@Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene MUST GO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/440): > > Modnote: After careful deliberation, we feel this modnoted is needed. It is the board’s policy to stop casual misogyny. It will not be tolerated, even in the Pit. We are not specifically banning any words, but please report instances of misogyny and expect moderator action. The use of ‘qunt’ was misogynistic, and thus a modnote has been issued. We apologize that it took so long to resolve this. We were distracted by ‘should we ban this word?’ The mods have agreed that in general, we don’t wan… ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6721 "2022-07-21T21:05:31Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > After the ridiculous banning of Shodan and banning someone over ‘harpy’ because Who was banned over ‘harpy’? It can’t be Shodan 'cause that’s not how English fucking works. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6722 "2022-07-21T21:11:05Z")
Ah, yeah, you all are correct. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6723 "2022-07-21T21:23:20Z")
You should write that down somewhere to remind you that you should say it far more often. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6724 "2022-07-21T21:27:09Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > You should write that down somewhere to remind you that you should say it far more often. - He might be trying to lay a trap. But that would require cunning. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6725 "2022-07-21T21:31:01Z")
T’were I he I’d go with ‘You banned Shodan and Martin but you still allow me to post! If that isn’t liberal hypocrisy what is?’ . . . ~~penis~~ petards and hoisting ensues. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6726 "2022-07-21T21:34:39Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Ah, yeah, you all are correct. This post will self-destruct in five seconds. Five … four … ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6727 "2022-07-21T21:41:57Z")
For those who don’t know the real history, Shodan was banned after a pattern of problems. The original announcement of his banning is of little help, because the only thing in the announcement are two broken links. But I will give some links to the ATMB discussions anyway. In 2019, Shodan was suspended for having 4 warnings in under a year. > [@Shodan is suspended](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-suspended/840152): > > For four warnings in just under a year, two of which for trolling, Shodan has been suspended for one week. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21856017&postcount=122](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21856017&postcount=122)[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21690204&postcount=27](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21690204&postcount=27)[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21546027&postcount=47](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21546027&postcount=47)[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21233953&postcount=4130](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21233953&postcount=4130) The following year he was warned yet again after the suspension, and that led to his banning. > [@Shodan is Banned](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shodan-is-banned/853758): > > For earning a warning following a recent suspension, poster Shodan is banned from the SDMB. Warning: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22301444&postcount=78](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22301444&postcount=78) Recent Suspension: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881960](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=881960) Yes, the final warning regarded using a misogynistic term that many considered to be somewhat mild (although even “mild” misogyny is gross), but that was only the very last thing. The suspension followed a long and repeated series of problems, and I saw it as the last chance for Shodan. He took that chance and just kept going, to show that he was not going to improve. I’ll also note that Shodan had multiple warnings for trolling. That’s a **shitload** of rope he was given. Octo’s version of the Big Lie is that Shodan was a perfectly well-behaved contributor to this community, but since he was a conservative he was being persecuted. The moderators were looking for any excuse to ban him, and when he made one comment out of line, he was gone. That is a complete fabrication, and after a couple of years he is still beating that drum. It’s both tedious and sad. There was an extensive discussion afterward, with nuance that Octo’s story is missing, if you want even more information and the way the community felt about the situation. > [@The Banning of Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-banning-of-shodan/853763): > > Since it has been 8 months since the suspension and since the suspension was only for a week, banning is harsh. A one month suspension would be more appropriate. (I will also say that @MrDibble already posted that link above, but it might not have been clear that this was what he was linking to.) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6728 "2022-07-21T21:52:30Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Octo’s version of the Big Lie is that Shodan was a perfectly well-behaved contributor to this community, but since he was a conservative he was being persecuted. And like the Big Lie itself, the purpose is to undermine the stability of the board by attacking the credibility of its authority structures. Attacks like that should be taken seriously by the mods and treated as trolling, even in the pit. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6729 "2022-07-21T21:56:21Z")
At the least this, > [@octopus](#): > > After the ridiculous banning of Shodan and banning someone over ‘harpy’ because it was directed at a presumed dem when cunt directed at a republican doesn’t get a note it’s quixotic to waste time with those who revel in double standards. is a complaint about moderation and belongs in ATMB! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6730 "2022-07-21T22:02:17Z")
Reported for Junior Modding (Not really) ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6731 "2022-07-21T22:04:11Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Yes, the final warning regarded using a misogynistic term that many considered to be somewhat mild (although even “mild” misogyny is gross), but that was only the very last thing. Yeah, I’ve never understood this defense that “harpy” is mild. We aren’t trying to stamp out bad words; we’re trying to stop misogyny. “But I used a mild word to be misogynistic” isn’t the defense that some people think it is. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6732 "2022-07-21T23:02:20Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > is a complaint about moderation and belongs in ATMB! That occurred to me too, as I was crafting my reply about the banning, but, meh. Honestly, it doesn’t even belong in ATMB. It doesn’t belong anywhere. We beat that horse to death. It belongs in a jar of glue at this point, as that horse has been pulverized. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6733 "2022-07-21T23:12:07Z")
You fools are beyond pathetic with your hypocrisy at this point. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6734 "2022-07-21T23:22:12Z")
You are far too sensitive and lacking of temperament. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6735 "2022-07-21T23:34:11Z")
Perhaps it would help if you went off and had a good weep. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6736 "2022-07-21T23:42:36Z")
He’s a sensitive soul. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6737 "2022-07-22T00:11:46Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You fools are beyond pathetic with your hypocrisy This is so meta I don’t even know what to do. Octopus squirts out lies like so much ink from a mollusk’s asshole, then when confronted with facts, calls the people with facts “fools” and “hypocrites”, in a foolishly hypocritical way. Now that’s some performance art for the ages! ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6738 "2022-07-22T01:42:09Z")
I’m going to bookmark this. Just so that I can quote you the next time you say something egregiously stupid. Don’t thank me, it’s just a public service. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/6739 "2022-07-22T01:44:03Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You fools are beyond pathetic with your hypocrisy at this point. > [@octopus](#): > > Ah, yeah, you all are correct. ^this [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=112) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=114)