# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 151
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7480 "2022-09-11T04:01:49Z")
You have no idea what sources I read. I primarily read left of center media. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7481 "2022-09-11T04:13:18Z")
Ok, then, can you explain why you missed what was posted many times in threads here about CRT? Can you explain why that bit of info about what CRT actually does **must** be ignored by you? One big bullshit feature of the right is to see the bad faith Narrators like Christopher Rufo do a number on CRT and then do the same move against transgender people by attacking hospitals nowadays. It is like when another bad narrator from the right pushed for the “Swiftboaters for truth” and the came back years later as a climate change denier “expert” without missing a beat. One big feature of bullshit is that the bullshitters can do it with any subject, but that does not make them proper researchers, no one can be an expert of everything, the ones that pretend to be are bullshitters and many on the right fall for them. Many on the right just are not capable to note how they are being fooled. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7482 "2022-09-11T04:17:33Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I don’t demand homogeneity of thought. Liars, by default, demand their own specific homogenity of thought. It’s why they lie, liar. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7483 "2022-09-11T04:17:47Z")
Have a cookie! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7484 "2022-09-11T04:19:59Z")
The nitpicking over the technical definition of CRT isn’t of interest to me. What is being taught about equity, equality, privilege and all that does matter. I think it’s exceeding counterproductive to label things like telling time and punctuality as so-called whiteness. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7485 "2022-09-11T04:22:41Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The nitpicking over the technical definition of CRT isn’t of interest to me. Of course, the ton of context (that you missed from many reports from the left and investigations like me and others did in this site, that leads me to conclude that you are lying too about you reading sources from the left) is not important to you. Only what the right wing hive tells you to think about CRT is what matters. That many researchers that used the CRT framework are also minorities that are having their livelihoods affected thanks to the underhanded efforts from the right, is the point. It is also the point that in the example I made, right-wingers are shooting themselves in their feet (or their tentacles) by banning the teaching of research that puts China’s leadership feet in the coals. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7486 "2022-09-11T04:53:25Z")
Again, that doesn’t support your assertion that I desire a hivemind. If I disagree with others on stuff and debate others on the stuff that is not at all similar to a demand that others agree with me or be silent. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7487 "2022-09-11T04:58:17Z")
Piffle, then you would not be as consistent in your willful ignorance. What I posted showed your basic problem, that willful ignorance of yours leads to you making arguments from ignorance as a default. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7488 "2022-09-11T05:01:18Z")
That was funny. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7489 "2022-09-11T05:01:26Z")
Let’s say for sake of argument that one is ignorant or comes to an incorrect conclusion, that is still not the same as demanding ideological conformity with the fervor of the worst of the zealots from the Reign of Terror or the Spanish Inquisition. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7490 "2022-09-11T05:02:25Z")
Of course, that is what idiots like you are for… Choose your poison. Incidentally, you have to remember that what I say goes to willful ignorants. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7491 "2022-09-11T05:04:15Z")
And how you post is part of the problem. Instead of recognizing that you are incorrect with your assertion you make the ad hominem that the only reason one could disagree with the one true way™ of thinking is to be clinically mentally deficient. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7492 "2022-09-11T05:06:38Z")
Nope, before that you had the chance to see what you got wrong about CRT, you willfully choose the path of the bullshitters. Incidentally, I checked what actual researchers of CRT did, you relied on the likes of Rufo. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7493 "2022-09-11T05:07:38Z")
You deny that there are nonsensical and completely counterproductive methods of teaching about race? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7494 "2022-09-11T05:09:25Z")
That only shows that you deny that Rufo/Fox news and others bullshitted you. Again you miss that you confuse this board as left leaning when the focus of The Straight Dope has been to check the cites. Instead of giving you pause, when other groups that also check if a position is bullshit reach similar conclusions, you fall for the dumb choice of following the fake experts. > **[What Is Critical Race Theory and Why Are Some People So Mad at It?](https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/05/27/what-is-critical-race-theory/)** > > Why are some people so mad at critical race theory? We talked to some experts about the concept, which is primarily taught in law school. > **[Why are states banning critical race theory?](https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/07/02/why-are-states-banning-critical-race-theory/)** > > It's important to understand what critical race theory is and is not. > **[Critical race theory](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory)** > > Critical race theory (CRT) is an analysis of how society views race and how it intersects with systemic institutions in the United States. This in turn became the perfect new boogeyman for the far-right to scare white people with in the early 2020s.... > **[PolitiFact - Youngkin offers little proof critical race theory is in 'all'...](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/aug/10/glenn-youngkin/youngkin-offers-little-proof-critical-race-theory-/)** > > Republican gubernatorial nominee Glenn Youngkin says critical race theory has become pervasive in Virginia schools and m ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7495 "2022-09-11T05:20:41Z")
Well shoot if non-partisan sites like RationalWiki and Snopes say it’s the truth who am I to argue? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7496 "2022-09-11T05:22:40Z")
Since Snopes shot down many points of a documentary like Fahrenheit 911 you are also showing your dumb willful ignorance here. Rationalwiki is there because they also made fun of GMO doomsayers (who are mostly from the left) Again, the point is the gross ignorance that you and many on the right demonstrated here, other groups that focused on checking fake claims were mostly equally dismissive of claims from the left until recent times, that you and others are now finding fewer examples of mistakes or misleading info from the left and more from the right on other sites that check for the cites points to a failure in a party that fell for someone like Trump. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7497 "2022-09-11T14:54:39Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > There is much wisdom in the old adage (which I first came across in a compilation of hundreds of corollaries of Murphy’s Law) that one should “ **never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity** ”. [Hanlon’s razor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor), and it’s not so old, the main attribution being in a 1980 collection of (wait for it) Murphy’s laws. The basic concept stated less succinctly has been seen as far back as the 18th century by Goethe. Of course, the counter for that is, “Never attempt to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.” ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7498 "2022-09-11T15:24:05Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Well shoot if non-partisan sites like RationalWiki and Snopes say it’s the truth who am I to argue? Try addressing evidence instead of dismissing the sources. It’s a lazy and often dishonest tactic. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7499 "2022-09-12T05:07:15Z")
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