# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7520 "2022-09-20T06:09:20Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Which brings up a complaint. Instead of just a link, could you include a sample – a small one would do? The poster in question was not only banned s/he was cornfielded leaving not so much as a grease spot behind.

The problem with that - and this is just an observation, not an injunction - is cleaning up trolls like that is a lot harder if his trolling has been quoted all over the board.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7521 "2022-09-20T07:16:51Z")

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I also think that trolls are best dealt with using the principle of Ignore, Silence, and Deny.

If a troll is identified quickly, squash it and don’t give it the satisfaction of acknowledging its existence.

Now, not all trolls are insta-zapped so this thread can help discuss them while they’re active. And there’s a certain amount of satisfaction and sick fascination in talking about them.

But your garden variety drive-by trolls aren’t worth the effort of a discussion.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7522 "2022-09-20T15:32:07Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Ah, the usual drivel, then.

Is there ever any new drivel? Where are our creative drivelers these days?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7523 "2022-09-20T15:42:30Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Where are our creative drivelers these days?

I think that Paula Cole sang a song about that.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7524 "2022-09-20T15:45:35Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Where are our creative drivelers these days?

[I’m giving it my best](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-helps-avert-railway-strike/971674/17), man, geez! Tough crowd!

😛

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7525 "2022-09-20T16:07:09Z")

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I did note that the break-off thread indicated it was a Sock, not just a troll.

Since I was offline (sleep, why must I need it?) I have no idea if it had any tells or other confirmations that verified that for our Mod’verlords, nor do they owe it to me.

I will say though, that in the (comparatively) short time I’ve been here it seems the socks are putting in less effort to seem ‘normal’ for a period of time before raising the Trolly Roger to the mast.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7526 "2022-09-20T16:30:37Z")

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You can always PM the mods and they’ll give you a private update.

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**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7527 "2022-09-20T18:47:31Z")

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Is chela a trock or just a garden variety asshole? His/her activities in the stupid “Shop class no no’s Shorts, long hair and giant prosthetic boobs?” topic he/she created confirm the asshole part. The fact their profile is hidden leads me to suspect troll or trock…but they have been posting since at least 2011, and their assholishness seems pretty recent.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7528 "2022-09-20T18:57:06Z")

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> [@Latimera](#):
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> Is chela a trock or just a garden variety asshole?

Someone bigoted against trans people. I don’t think it’s more complicated than that.

I believe like most bigots they assume everyone shares their beliefs, and was surprised that people didn’t go along.

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**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7529 "2022-09-20T19:02:59Z")

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Fair enough. I tend to be suspicious of hidden profiles.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I believe like most bigots they assume everyone shares their beliefs, and was surprised that people didn’t go along.

That’s a good observation.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7530 "2022-09-20T19:03:58Z")

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You can’t start a thread about trans issues on this board without attracting bigots. And sometimes the bigots themselves start these threads. It’s disgusting.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7531 "2022-09-20T19:33:39Z")

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I’m not seeing anything trollish, assholish, or bigoted about chela’s posts in that thread. They saw an interesting news story and posted about it. Unless there’s posting history that I’m not aware of, they haven’t done anything wrong, IMO.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7532 "2022-09-20T19:49:41Z")

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This trollish, assholish, and/or bigoted enough?

> [@Pronouns and idiot fascists](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouns-and-idiot-fascists/970369/357):
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> @The_Librarian This is the trans activist habitat, Where some will lie in wait ready to pounce on you for any and all perceived expression that is not embracing the radical trans activist mantra. Their soapbox gets a huge workout here but translates to zilch influence outside the pit.

> [@J K Rowling and the trans furore](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/j-k-rowling-and-the-trans-furore/855795/1622):
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> Yes! She is articulating so well my concerns on the subject of trans rights. Thank you Monstro, YWTF …

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7533 "2022-09-20T19:57:30Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> This trollish, assholish, and/or bigoted enough?

Oh, yeah, that’ll do it. Now I need to reread the thread through that lens.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7534 "2022-09-20T19:59:29Z")

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7535 "2022-09-20T20:02:57Z")

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> [@Latimera](#):
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> I tend to be suspicious of hidden profiles.

I didn’t know my profile was hidden until someone told me. I certainly don’t remember ever specifying that - and even when I knew, I couldn’t find the setting until someone told me where to look, it’s somewhere counterintuitive.

I just checked again - it’s not under “Account”, “Profile” or “Security”. It’s a little check box hidden in “Interface” among a bunch of other checkboxes that control superficial aspects of how the site looks _to you_. Very odd.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7536 "2022-09-20T20:06:41Z")

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I’m pretty sure profiles default to public, but who knows what happened during the migration. A new poster with a hidden profile is somebody who knew to search for it and click it off. Definitely suspicious.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7537 "2022-09-20T20:07:30Z")

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> **[Trans Women Are Women. It's Time to Move Past Harmful Debate](https://time.com/5865581/transphobia-terf-harm/)**
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> Living in a patriarchy is fundamentally scary for all women, but trans women are at heightened risk

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7538 "2022-09-20T20:07:32Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> [I’m giving it my best](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-helps-avert-railway-strike/971674/17), man, geez! Tough crowd!

@JohnT, that is brilliant! Well done!

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7539 "2022-09-20T20:08:13Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> A new poster with a hidden profile is somebody who knew to search for it and click it off. Definitely suspicious.

Not really. Discourse is very common. There’s not really any good reason for hiding your profile. Anything I can discover through it, I can discover without it.

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