# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 157
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7600 "2022-09-28T00:23:55Z")
And now MV’s spinning up the old FQ Sandy Hook CT thread with his patented blend of jaqing around and eye-crampingly incompetent writing. Are we sure he’s not someone’s trock? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7601 "2022-09-28T00:59:06Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > And now MV’s spinning up the old FQ Sandy Hook CT thread with his patented blend of jaqing around and eye-crampingly incompetent writing. Another one for the useless poster ban. There’s no way MV is posting in good faith, resurrecting a 7-years-dead thread to just ask moronic questions he could have found answers to with a 10 second Google search. December 21, 2012: > [@](#): > > Mr. Calver said after the memorial service, where Dylan’s ashes were in an urn on the stage. > **[Mourning a Boy Who Flapped His Wings, and 25 Other Lives in Newtown...](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/22/nyregion/a-newtown-conn-boy-who-flapped-his-wings-is-mourned.html)** > > A moment of silence was held a week after the schoolhouse killings of 26 people, and services were held for five of them. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7602 "2022-09-28T02:01:58Z")
I don’t even understand what his point is supposed to be. You could probably look at any historical event and find contradictory wording, but that doesn’t mean anything about the truthfulness of the event and it’s not hard to figure out what is accurate and what is not. It’s either that or he’s just genuinely clueless about western funerary practices. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7603 "2022-09-28T02:09:31Z")
> [@Mr.E](#): > > I don’t even understand what his point is supposed to be. Oh, come on. Why do you think he’s trying to make a point? The poor guy is _just asking questions_! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7604 "2022-09-28T11:14:54Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > And now MV’s spinning up the old FQ Sandy Hook CT thread with his patented blend of jaqing around and eye-crampingly incompetent writing. Saw this earlier. Based on his posts there, I’m comfortable concluding MV is 100% a troll. I was suspicious before but this clinched it. It’s basically the same idiot credulity affected by Jim\_B, but cloaked in a more energetic and aggressive, and less affably dopey, persona. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7605 "2022-09-28T11:36:05Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > > [@Mr.E](#): > > > > I don’t even understand what his point is supposed to be. > > Oh, come on. Why do you think he’s trying to make a point? The poor guy is _just asking questions_! Of course he is. In other news, the inside of my monitor has acquired a smelly sticky substance, for some arcane reason… ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7606 "2022-09-29T05:11:17Z")
Our paid Russian member is again posting straight up Russian propaganda. Is someone posting absolute propaganda a troll? What do we do to get someone booted for pushing Putin’s news? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7607 "2022-09-29T05:38:03Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Our paid Russian member is again posting straight up Russian propaganda. May be is what you say not true. May be that comrade **Kedikat** get pay no rubles for post, but work for free as volunteer for benefit glorious Russian Federation, nyet? За нашу дружбу! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7608 "2022-09-29T05:41:12Z")
In Soviet Russia, Kedikat speak perfect English. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7609 "2022-09-29T08:43:42Z")
I thought in new Russia, he JAQK. (Just Asking Questions, Komrade) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7610 "2022-09-29T14:25:47Z")
In all seriousness, i don’t think he’s a paid Russian troll. I think he’s just a fan of Russia. I think we had a paid Russian troll on an actuarial board i used to moderate. And while he was pro-Russia, mostly he attempted to sow discord on domestic topics. For instance, when there was a controversial interaction between the two major US actuarial societies, he asked questions like, “don’t you think that guy looks like he’s being forced to say that?” and contributed outright lies that seemed designed to push people apart. The actuarial world is small, and i was personally acquainted with the guy who “looked forced”. He wasn’t. I disagree with his position at the time, but he was honestly doing what he thought best. And creating additional conflict was clearly in no one’s interest, except perhaps Russia, which was trying to sow civil distrust in the US. He did the same “just asking questions” on other topics, as well. I admit, i haven’t read much of kedikat’s work. But what i have read seems much less destructive than the other guy. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7611 "2022-09-29T14:46:30Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > while he was pro-Russia, mostly he attempted to sow discord on domestic topics. For instance, when there was a controversial interaction between the two major US actuarial societies, he asked questions like, “don’t you think that guy looks like he’s being forced to say that?” and contributed outright lies that seemed designed to push people apart. A primitive troll fights you. A more advanced troll gets you to fight each other. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7612 "2022-09-29T17:18:48Z")
Not bad. But his sentences are shorter. Who is to say what the truth is? He spends six hours a day parsing it out. Could Germany and U.S. have sabotaged the pipeline? In the end, [a YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy68rVFaWdw) explains everything. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7613 "2022-09-29T23:56:13Z")
Causing a fight among others was a goal of the ur-troll group alt.syntax.tactical (I think that was their usenet group name, anyway). ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7614 "2022-09-30T21:42:12Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > alt.syntax.tactical Ah, there’s a newsgroup name that flits upon the memory. Yes, before 4chan, there was a.s.t. But in that more innocent age, it was all recreational trollage, not weaponized like you have to worry about now. Here, approaching the figurative end of days, you have to wonder about that distinction for every putative troll you encounter. Sad, really. ---
**Author:** ![GWF\_Hefel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/898d66/32.png) [@GWF\_Hefel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GWF_Hefel)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7615 "2022-10-03T13:23:15Z")
Is the US to blame for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine? I gotta say, WhatExit is very accommodating of the obvious troll WellHelloThere. People from Jersey, sheesh! (And a shout out to my hometown of Camden which I thankfully haven’t seen in 50+ years.) ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7616 "2022-10-03T13:44:03Z")
Where’s my Anti-Tankie rocket when I need it… ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7617 "2022-10-03T15:56:49Z")
Said poster does seem to buy into the ‘Look what you made me do!’ argument found on several pro-Russia or right leaning Russian apologist sites. I’d be making a crack about abusive husbands asking for help after their ex-wife takes a self defense class or considers buying a gun, but I’ve been beaten to it in the thread, since it’s a pretty obvious example. Although TBH, they’re really pushing a narrative that somehow, despite all evidence, the US somehow ‘made’ this all happen without ever providing any reasonable mechanism as to HOW. So, yeah, I am pretty damn sure it’s not an actual Tankie or Russian supporter, but full on troll. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7618 "2022-10-03T16:39:31Z")
Of course it is. It’s one of the repeats. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7619 "2022-10-03T19:35:24Z")
When the troll actually makes you angry and is opposed to you, it can be harder to tell on your own if they’re trolling or it’s just you. I’d rather have mods who were a bit slow to pull the trigger than the reverse in this sort of situation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=156) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=158)