# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7900 "2022-11-21T15:36:51Z")

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Oh fuck off! \*

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\* This post humbly submitted in the hope that it meets the high standards of constructive and intellectually stimulating debate expected by @naita.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7901 "2022-11-21T15:51:40Z")

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How shall we fuck off, O Lord?

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7902 "2022-11-21T15:52:34Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> But… imagine me repeating this message multiple times. With me eventually admitting that I have zero first hand knowledge or experience of what I am so furiously claiming to be correct on. […] Eventually, I would be breaking the ‘don’t be a jerk’ rule, would I not?

Aren’t you the guy who got himself kicked out of a franchising community for repeatedly telling people how franchises we’re scams?

Did you knock it before you tried it? Or does that rule not apply in all contexts?

~Max, calling the kettle “black”

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7903 "2022-11-21T15:56:28Z")

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Touché

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7904 "2022-11-21T16:02:42Z")

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I look forward to seeing what position he takes the next time “open carry” comes up . . . 'cause it seems inescapable (even for a guy with his skills to escape the obvious) that that person should ~~be given a stern lecture~~  ~~disarmed~~  ~~arrested~~  ~~killed~~ murdered on sight.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7905 "2022-11-21T16:24:44Z")

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Well, since we’ve moved on past posters who annoy us and back to trolls, I’m currently wondering about Wrenching\_Spanners. Their first ATMB defense of the departed UV felt a lot more like wanting to protect the rights of the right as it were, rather than deal with the particulars of the posters patterns, but I wouldn’t have called it trolling.

Opening a brand new ATMB thread (thankfully shut down with cause by ECG) though to KEEP complaining that hijacks aren’t such a thing, and even if so, it was subjective, and because UV attitudes were unpopular, it was biased and wrong… well, that feels like it’s starting to move to the realm of proactive trolling.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7906 "2022-11-21T16:29:06Z")

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Every time a jerk poster is banned, the other jerks clench.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7907 "2022-11-21T16:29:28Z")

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Not so much a troll as another right-winger keen to keep up the “any moderation of conservatives is political persecution” meme to proactively protect himself from potential future moderation.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7908 "2022-11-21T16:32:35Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> (thankfully shut down with cause by ECG)

While **WS** was composing a reply. 😃

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7909 "2022-11-21T16:33:02Z")

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I agree @Gyrate , which is the way I characterized the first ATMB post - but everything about their second thread felt . . . more aggressive? It may still be a proactive defense just as you indicated, but to me felt super confrontational, as the prior thread was still technically open.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7910 "2022-11-21T16:36:34Z")

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I don’t think **Wrenching\_Spanners** is a jerk, I sure as hell don’t think they’re a troll. Starting the 2nd ATMB thread was a weird move but otherwise they don’t cause problems. I’m barely aware of them as a Mod.

I also don’t think they’re all that right wing. I recall him using science in Climate Change threads and not emotional appeals. But as that is a special interest area for me, maybe that is why it is about all that really registered.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7911 "2022-11-21T16:39:31Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I also don’t think they’re all that right wing.

British right wing, which can still be obnoxious but not full-on batshit the way the US far-right has gone.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7912 "2022-11-21T16:42:19Z")

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Which they should stop doing . . . someone’s bound to get a serious puncture wound from all the extra nails they leave laying around.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7913 "2022-11-21T16:42:31Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Every time a jerk poster is banned, the other jerks clench.

🤣

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7914 "2022-11-21T17:13:34Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Oh fuck off! \*
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> - This post humbly submitted in the hope that it meets the high standards of constructive and intellectually stimulating debate expected by @naita.

Oh no! I’ve been called out for being dismissive in the pit. I shall amend my ways forthwith! 🙄

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7915 "2022-11-21T20:14:54Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> I’ve been called out for being dismissive in the pit. I shall amend my ways forthwith!

You’ve been converted! Hallelujah!

That’s why some people engage in Pitnessing.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7916 "2022-11-21T21:15:05Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I also don’t think they’re all that right wing

You should take a look in the GOP House investigation of President Joe Biden thread.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7917 "2022-11-21T22:54:56Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Not so much a troll as another right-winger keen to keep up the “any moderation of conservatives is political persecution” meme to proactively protect himself from potential future moderation.

AKA: “working the refs”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7918 "2022-11-21T22:55:33Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> You should take a look in the GOP House investigation of President Joe Biden thread.

You mean the “We should impeach Biden because Hunter’s laptop and also you were mean to Trump” thread?

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/7919 "2022-11-21T22:57:22Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> AKA: “working the refs”

AKA [Flak Machine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model#Flak)

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