# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4820 "2021-10-21T17:14:46Z")
Well, it won’t be long until that troll flames out, so get in your fun while you can, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4821 "2021-10-21T17:16:45Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > If he continues with this misinformed bullshit, he should get banned for that. Twitter and YouTube ban people for posting anti-vax bullshit. This is an excellent point. Is posting dangerous misinformation against the rules? Perhaps it should be - relying on other posters to correct the misinformation in later posts seems insufficient. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4822 "2021-10-21T17:21:55Z")
Eh, just flag the post for moderation, saying it purposely provides disinformation re the COVID vax. I did, it will be interesting to see the response. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4823 "2021-10-21T20:27:57Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > gandrews3367 is a moron. Troll? Probably not; just a moron I’m going to disagree - he’s deliberately going for all the troll points in the threads he’s in and starts. For example, his Dave Chappelle thread basically is trying to short circuit concerns about Dave’s act by JAQ about other past comedians who were ‘controversial’. Leaving out that those artists were generally self-mocking, pointing out flaws in their own groups, or punching up, rather than taking a swipe at a different group that was being treated poorly. Very few people post that many black-hearted threads and individual posts w/out knowing what they’re doing. For example the “Biden is worst president ever” one in the Democratic Party Perfect/Good thread. Not saying they’re a sock (although feels like it), but Troll? Absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4824 "2021-10-21T20:34:00Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Very few people post that many black-hearted threads and individual posts w/out knowing what they’re doing. For example the “Biden is worst president ever” one in the Democratic Party Perfect/Good thread. Not saying they’re a sock (although feels like it), but Troll? Absolutely. Not only that but the manner in which this was done feels so familiar. Hence why a couple of days ago I said this feels trockish. I can’t put my finger on who, but I am pretty confident this is a recent serial bannee. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4825 "2021-10-21T20:54:51Z")
Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4826 "2021-10-21T23:33:20Z")
How’s about dear old dodgy dave, trying to discuss how the Trump Russia connection was a hoax. `[Now that the dust has settled on the Trump's Russia Hoax - #7 by Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-the-dust-has-settled-on-the-trumps-russia-hoax/952952/7) ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4827 "2021-10-22T15:50:59Z")
At least his handle is perfectly descriptive. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4828 "2021-10-22T16:33:34Z")
Well he has help, what with Screeching\_Wankers seeming to want to back him up in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4829 "2021-10-22T16:56:39Z")
I’m sure that they are in no way the same poster. That would be just crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4830 "2021-10-22T19:42:58Z")
In case you missed it, Asahi had an impressive flame-out: > [@Alec Baldwin \[accidentally\] Kills Crew Member with Prop Gun {2021-10-21}](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alec-baldwin-kills-crew-member-with-prop-gun/952960/19): > > I hate Alec Baldwin and hope he does hard time in prison. et seq j ---
**Author:** ![TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thegunismightierthanthepen/32/2981_2.png) [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheGunIsMightierThanThePen)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4831 "2021-10-22T20:03:13Z")
What a shame. I really appreciated his insights on various topics, when he wasn’t in one of his unhinged states. He really should’ve stepped away for a bit and take the time to fix his inner demons and/or relationship troubles, instead of letting it come to a explosive boil and bringing this ignominous end upon himself. That being said, he is a self-admitted fan of the Cardinals (MLB, not NFL) and the Cowboys, which eases the sting of this somewhat. ---
**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4832 "2021-10-23T09:06:31Z")
I will miss him. His doomsaying got a bit much, especially when trolling unrelated threads, but I think he is more right than wrong. Too bad he got that unhinged in the end. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4833 "2021-10-23T09:22:03Z")
I want to agree, aside from his calls for the mass imprisonment of his political opponents that, at times, included dehumanizing them (and we know where that leads) and his strong desire for America to become dictatorship . . . yeah asahi was a swell guy. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4834 "2021-10-23T14:39:37Z")
Yeah “in the end” like years ago when he admitted he didn’t care for many marginalized groups or progressive policies. I guess his outsized hatred for Republicans led a lot of people gloss over those bits over the years. This wasn’t new, people. It just got a tad more exposure is the only real difference this time. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4835 "2021-10-23T14:44:12Z")
As I mentioned to one of the mods regarding another poster, we can’t fight ignorance if we keep perma-banning the ignorant. I never liked the idea of a permaban anyway, except as an extreme, extreme measure, and think this Board would have been better served over the years if, say, a 3 or 5 year banning would have been implemented. (Not really wanting to debate the above, and this isn’t the thread for it anyway, but there it is. I started writing and that’s where the fingers took me.) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4836 "2021-10-23T14:54:41Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > As I mentioned to one of the mods regarding another poster, we can’t fight ignorance if we keep perma-banning the ignorant. I don’t think anyone has been banned solely for being ignorant. They’re generally banned for trolling or just generally being disruptive and insulting. Being ignorant is just a frequent bonus. In any event, I don’t know of a single case where an ignoramus has ever been persuaded by facts and logic. This is an enduring truth that is currently playing out once again in the speed-of-light thread in GQ. The ignoramus in question has a story about the falseness of special relativity – an incoherent story, to be sure, but it’s his story, and he’s sticking to it. Factual challenges are just ignored. Everyone who’s been arguing with him, including me, has been wasting their time. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4837 "2021-10-23T14:57:45Z")
But the goal isn’t just to persuade the one we are responding to, but to also persuade those who are reading these words who don’t respond. Many times I write, not with the intention of ‘teaching’ the other poster the ‘truth’, but with the purpose of allowing future readers to read a proper rebuttal, allowing them make up their own minds. In your case, there are other people who believe that way, and other people who _will_ believe that way. Imagine if, in 2024, someone who is just starting to ‘think’ along the same lines Googles their way here… they can now read your rebuttal to what, up to that point, seemed to be perfectly reasonable questions. In short: If you constantly rid or ignore those who argue on the side of ignorance, then, yeah, it’s definitely going to take longer than we thought! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4838 "2021-10-23T14:58:42Z")
This would be far better in its own thread. Maybe leave off of it in this one? Not official, though I did flag all 3 posts for Miller to review. He might spin this off if it continues or not. Not my decision. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4839 "2021-10-23T14:59:47Z")
🙂 I did originally say “isn’t the thread for (this) anyway”, so no problem. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=19)