# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8280 "2023-01-25T01:19:38Z")

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I went to the ~~fight~~ debate and a ~~hockey~~ baseball game broke out.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8281 "2023-01-25T01:20:25Z")

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It will life in infamy as the Piazzagate thread.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8282 "2023-01-25T01:21:36Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Troll OP: Well Mike Piazza hit a home run in a game soon after 9/11 and united New York single handedly.
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> Every other poster: WTF does that have to do with anything!?!
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> Now imagine that playing out over almost 200 posts.

Which is why the Game Room thread is kind of humorous if you know the backstory. He’s just taking a different tack for expressing his admiration for all things Mike Piazza, with the latest being that Bush should have campaigned with Piazza in 2004 because the U.S. was still so in love with him after that home run three years prior.

(If that isn’t enough to convince the mods that he isn’t sincere, I don’t know what it will take.)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8283 "2023-01-25T11:31:10Z")

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For the record, I haven’t the slightest idea who Mike Piazza is. Apparently I didn’t get “united” with everyone else at the time.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8284 "2023-01-25T11:38:23Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> For the record, I haven’t the slightest idea who Mike Piazza is. Apparently I didn’t get “united” with everyone else at the time.

I learned today that he’s not Mike Schmidt.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8285 "2023-01-25T11:42:42Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> For the record, I haven’t the slightest idea who Mike Piazza is. Apparently I didn’t get “united” with everyone else at the time.

I only knew him from this song:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Z7wSBqOIJBo/maxresdefault.jpg "Belle & Sebastian Piazza, New York Catcher") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7wSBqOIJBo)

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**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8286 "2023-01-25T12:56:30Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> The spelling error is one thing but the argument it was intended to refute wasn’t even close to an ad hominem.

Ad Hominem means “attacking the person, not the argument”.

> [@Fair tax act](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fair-tax-act/978711/19):
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> This proposed tax is not a progressive system. If it was, the Republicans wouldn’t be proposing it.

Little\_Nemo is saying, “It can’t be what they say because EVIL PEOPLE”. That’s attacking the people making the argument, not the argument i.e. Ad Hominem.

But I used the wrong word, so fair, you got me.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8287 "2023-01-25T13:10:35Z")

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IIRC, it’s the _Genetic Fallacy_.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8288 "2023-01-25T13:22:09Z")

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> [@tofor](#):
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> Little\_Nemo is saying, “It can’t be what they say because EVIL PEOPLE”. That’s attacking the people making the argument, not the argument i.e. Ad Hominem.

No, Little\_Nemo is saying “Republicans don’t like progressive tax systems”. Which is entirely true, and supported by decades of their proposed and implemented tax policies.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8289 "2023-01-25T13:28:44Z")

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> [@tofor](#):
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> Little\_Nemo is saying, “It can’t be what they say because EVIL PEOPLE”. That’s attacking the people making the argument, not the argument i.e. Ad Hominem.

Republicans don’t oppose progressive taxation because they are evil, they oppose it because it’s their policy and they don’t consider it to be evil.

[Wikipedia’s article on Political Positions of the Republican Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_the_Republican_Party) says:

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> Many Republicans consider the income tax system to be inherently inefficient and oppose graduated tax rates, which they believe are unfairly targeted at those who create jobs and wealth.

I agree it would be fallacious to say Republicans oppose progressive taxation because they are evil but it’s not fallacious to say they oppose it because it’s their policy and a position they’ve consistently maintained in the past.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8290 "2023-01-25T13:32:33Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> The spelling error is one thing

The funny thing is that it wasn’t necessarily a misspelled word; instead, he substituted a different word that’s pronounced the same but has a different spelling and meaning. Is there a name for such a word?

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8291 "2023-01-25T13:33:51Z")

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I call it a spelling error but maybe their’s another name.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8292 "2023-01-25T13:34:31Z")

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I honestly can’t tell if you’re playing along or not. Lemme have some more coffee.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8293 "2023-01-25T13:38:20Z")

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He’s playing a long. Surely he knows the phrase Ad Hominey.

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52648489334_3af16221d8_b.jpg "Cerealine-Ad-1907") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52648489334/)

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8294 "2023-01-25T13:39:49Z")

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I actually was not playing along and completely missed it but I have a nice cup of tea in front of me now to help avoid whooshes like that in the future.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8295 "2023-01-25T14:22:24Z")

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I would love to compile a set of Ad Homonyms, e.g.,  
[![](https://i.redd.it/o4tojmftbj041.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/o4tojmftbj041.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8296 "2023-01-25T14:29:29Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> The funny thing is that it wasn’t necessarily a misspelled word; instead, he substituted a different word that’s pronounced the same but has a different spelling and meaning. Is there a name for such a word?

It’s a malapropism, but one that only shows up in writing.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8297 "2023-01-25T14:33:37Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> It’s a malapropism, but one that only shows up in writing.

No, no–what do you call a word with the same pronunciation as the intended word, but a different spelling and meaning? Starts with an h.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8298 "2023-01-25T14:36:53Z")

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Holy malapropism, Batman?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8299 "2023-01-25T14:37:01Z")

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Henry?

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