# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 197
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8400 "2023-01-31T15:58:49Z")
I know this is the “Trolls Resurrections” thread, but do we really need to be telling trolls how to resurrect themselves? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8401 "2023-01-31T16:12:01Z")
Oh, no. Octopus has that down pat. He has bumped his own troll thread no fewer than 8 times, blessing us at the SDMB with his attention-whore needs: [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52661334403_695b99233a_m.jpg "Octo10") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52661334403/) [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52660341987_10e7691ed4_n.jpg "Octo9") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52660341987/) [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52661334498_f97a336c36_n.jpg "Octo8") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52661334498/) [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52661334503_f59d478fdb_n.jpg "Octo7") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52661334503/) [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52661125339_02f578eed7_n.jpg "Octo6") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52661125339/) [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52661334508_8cc05072e4_n.jpg "Octo5") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52661334508/) [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52661287010_bc7589e0f9_n.jpg "Octo4") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52661287010/) [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52661287130_d15422219b_w.jpg "Octo1") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52661287130/) All on his way to having a 5:1 post ratio over the 2nd-most active poster in his own pit thread: [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52661286860_7334be1a32_m.jpg "Octo11") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52661286860/) 308 posts out of 1,348 (currently) gives Octo 22.8% of the posts in his own pitting. 🍭 And why does he do it? Because, being the ultimate narcissist: [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52660342062_3a8b8c74dc_m.jpg "Octo3") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52660342062/) I kinda read Octo in the voice of Groucho Marx, one of the all-time “look at me” comedians. Just not as funny. 🥸 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8402 "2023-01-31T16:23:12Z")
If you got those bumps by checking “all posts by [user]”, it shows the “x months later” even if they’re responding to a bump. If you expand the hidden replies it’ll show you who actually bumped it. Not to detract from anything else about him. The fact that he posts almost exclusively in the Pit - with regular detours to ATMB to complain about moderation - says plenty about why he’s here. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8403 "2023-01-31T16:29:13Z")
No shit, Sherlock. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8404 "2023-01-31T16:40:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > you got those bumps by checking “all posts by [user]”, it shows the “x months later” even if they’re responding to a bump. If you expand the hidden replies it’ll show you who actually bumped it. Ahh, dammit, I see what I did. You’re right. Shouldn’t have filtered by user: as you said that gave me the wrong impression of what was happening. My bad, Octo. You’re no more a narcissist than the rest of us (who have 22% of the posts in their own pit thread). 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8405 "2023-01-31T18:49:28Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Oh, no. Octopus has that down pat. He has bumped his own troll thread no fewer than 8 times, blessing us at the SDMB with his attention-whore needs: Whatever happened to Octupus, anyway? Do they still post? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8406 "2023-01-31T19:35:16Z")
The above is why personalized Pit threads for certain posters are pointless and counterproductive. No, you won’t be able to shame or reason with them to get them to change their ways (the **Sam** one is proof of the latter). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8407 "2023-01-31T19:55:59Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > The above is why personalized Pit threads for certain posters are pointless and counterproductive. They have a point and they have a purpose. > [@John\_DiFool](#): > > No, you won’t be able to shame or reason with them to get them to change their ways (the **Sam** one is proof of the latter). That is neither the point nor the purpose of those threads. You don’t open a Pit thread to get someone to be better. Not generally. You open a Pit thread because someone is frustrating the hell out of you and you need to vent. Vent and commiserate with other posters sick of someone’s bullshit. It’s like yelling in anger at your television; the person you are yelling at can’t possibly hear you (nor would they do anything if they did) but it makes you feel better. Every once in a blue moon someone actually responds to criticism from a Pit thread and improves. But it’s rare. I can only think of one occasion off the top of my head, and it was a minor change which didn’t address everyone’s gripes with their behavior. But it did actually help. A little. That’s still not why those threads are being created though. The Pit in general isn’t a place to try to fix problems. That’s what ATMB is for. It’s just a place for people to rant without getting in trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8408 "2023-01-31T20:22:17Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > No, you won’t be able to shame or reason with them to get them to change their ways It’s rare that you can do this in any other context either. The principal reason to interact with idiots is to rebut their stupidity for the benefit of _other_ people who might be reading. I’m obviously not just a lurker, but there are plenty of threads where I do lurk or say little because I don’t know much about it - and I certainly appreciate the more knowledgable people’s efforts in rebutting stupidity those threads. It’s not wasted effort. > [@Atamasama](#): > > The Pit in general isn’t a place to try to fix problems… It’s just a place for people to rant without getting in trouble. Yup, if there’s a place to vent your frustrations with an intransigent idiot, it’s then much easier to go back to the more polite standards of discourse in other forums and patiently rebut the stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8409 "2023-01-31T21:45:18Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Every once in a blue moon someone actually responds to criticism from a Pit thread and improves. But it’s rare. A blue moon happens on average [every 30 months](https://www.almanac.com/what-blue-moon).\* Are you sure improvements happen that often? \*Average being the key word. We had two calendrical blue moons in January and March, 2018. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8410 "2023-01-31T21:56:53Z")
I will say that DrDeth has been through the Pit quite a bit. Almost always for cause. And several times they’ve improved IMHO, but then backslide, or suffer Foot-in-Mouth disease and then double down earning much ire. But he’s the only one I can think of off the top of my head who’s improved their habits, or at least, more than the “lay low from the mods until the last incident passes recent memory” sort of improvement. And I wish DD would be consistent in thinking through their own prejudices and kneejerk defensiveness when someone calls them out. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8411 "2023-01-31T22:08:57Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > I will say that DrDeth has been through the Pit quite a bit. Almost always for cause. And several times they’ve improved IMHO, but then backslide, or suffer Foot-in-Mouth disease and then double down earning much ire. That’s who I had in mind as a matter of fact. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8412 "2023-01-31T22:21:15Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > I’m obviously not just a lurker, but there are plenty of threads where I do lurk or say little because I don’t know much about it - and I certainly appreciate the more knowledgable people’s efforts in rebutting stupidity those threads. It’s not wasted effort. Half the time I learn more from the rebuttals. There’s something about explaining something 16 different ways that means that, even if the troll doesn’t get it, others _may_. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8413 "2023-02-02T04:07:25Z")
I give you [bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ma-legislators-propose-letting-prisoners-donate-organs-in-exchange-for-reduced-sentences/979136/10): > [@](#): > > It’s about time that something like this happened. We will never solve the issue of imbalanced supply and demand for organs until we allow the free market to work. This is a step in that direction. The idiots who beat their breasts over alleged “unethicalness” of selling organs need to climb out of their ivory towers, and join the real world. This is in regards to proposed legislation in Massachusetts to reduce prison time for those prisoners who donate organs. Like some other posters, I had assumed this was satire, but said poster insists in follow-up posts that he’s dead serious. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8414 "2023-02-02T04:17:04Z")
He’s not serious. Totally trolling. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8415 "2023-02-02T04:20:57Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > He’s not serious. Several lawmakers are considering proposing sentence reduction for organ donation. Nor expected to be successful, but the proposers are serious. > **[Massachusetts prisoners who donate organs may get less prison time](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64488678)** > > A bill in Massachusetts proposes reduced sentences for prisoners who donate organs or bone marrow. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8416 "2023-02-02T04:23:45Z")
Yes, that was the article that prompted the initial Thread. Our resident troll is not serious though. He just wants some attention. “Everyone look at meeeeee!” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8417 "2023-02-02T04:25:00Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > He just wants some attention. He’s such a massive loser. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8418 "2023-02-02T07:02:12Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > He’s not serious. Totally trolling - Idk, he’s often posted things that were off. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/8419 "2023-02-02T07:05:03Z")
Well, yeah-If he was just a mediocre loser he wouldn’t get the same amount of attention. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=196) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=198)