# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4880 "2021-10-27T15:49:18Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> And I never would have made the time or effort that **Temporary\_Name** made in responding to **3367**. It was quite clear from the start that it was done through sheer force of will and gritted teeth. But it was refreshing that someone tried, just for a fucking change of pace.

To this point, I would like to note that people use this Board for differing reasons, some of which really have nothing to do with convincing the person we are talking to. For example, I wrote a number of posts to Gandrews/MSC (wordy posts, for which I was properly chided for ‘wall of texting’) regarding a single paragraph of his.

Did I do this with the expectation of changing minds?

😂

No. I wrote those posts for the following reasons:

1. I write them for myself. I enjoy doing it. The issue is important to me.
2. I wrote them for the SDMB readers beyond Gandrews.
3. I wrote them for the random person who might find themselves here on a Saturday morning, doing some web crawl on the question “did white people invent everything”?
4. I wrote them because the post, ranty as it was, was a pretty good statement of current Right thinking and I wanted to address a section of it.
5. I wrote them because I’m writing a Substack article which touches on this and I wanted to work through some ideas.

Some come here to convince. I come here to write. Two different motives resulting in differing preferred outcomes.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4881 "2021-10-27T15:53:05Z")

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Many of us can’t resist nitpicking, I am one of them. It is Abbie Hoffman.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4882 "2021-10-27T15:54:09Z")

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I’m saying that I often appreciate when posters like you, Temporary\_Name (and a handful of others), make the effort regardless of motive. It’s the lord’s work you’re doing. 😉

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4883 "2021-10-27T16:04:22Z")

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Max will be a Democrat in a couple of years.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4884 "2021-10-27T16:05:03Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Many of us can’t resist nitpicking, I am one of them. It is Abbie Hoffman.

Thank you for your service. I considered looking it up, and probably would have, we’re I on my laptop. Posting on my phone made me prefer to save myself the effort.

Again, my sincere thanks. 🙂

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4885 "2021-10-27T16:08:18Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Are you calling out **Max S.** as some sort of radical?

I didn’t intend to. If it came off that way, I apologize for my clumsy attempt at communication.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4886 "2021-10-27T16:09:48Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> tendency to grant the descriptor of “conservative” to reactionaries whose actions and blather are as radical as anything Abby Hoffman ever did.

The No True Conservative defence.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4887 "2021-10-27T16:15:10Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> wordy posts, for which I was properly chided for ‘wall of texting’

When did the definition of “wall of text” change? I can remember in recent years it meant a long post with one paragraph which is unarguably difficult to read and could have been easily corrected by the writer.

Now it means anything longer than the reader’s attention span as if that were the writer’s fault and not the reader’s.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4888 "2021-10-27T16:20:02Z")

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tl;dr your wall 'o text there.

Next time, try being more succinct.

😉

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4889 "2021-10-27T16:20:48Z")

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ur dum 😉

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4890 "2021-10-27T16:22:28Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> > [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > tendency to grant the descriptor of “conservative” to reactionaries whose actions and blather are as radical as anything Abby Hoffman ever did.
> 
> The No True Conservative defence.

I wouldn’t exactly call with a defense (or a defence), but it is a fact that true conservatives are exceptionally thin on the ground.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4891 "2021-10-27T16:23:22Z")

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I started to make this joke but thought better of it. Thanks for stepping into the breach.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4892 "2021-10-27T16:28:26Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> When did the definition of “wall of text” change?

Nowadays, a wall of text requires more than three swipes on your phone. Didn’t you get the memo? 😉

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**Author:** ![omenran](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omenran/32/3318_2.png) [@omenran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omenran)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4893 "2021-10-27T16:47:45Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> When did the definition of “wall of text” change?

No later than Twitter. If you couldn’t say it in 120 characters, no one would see the rest I bet.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4894 "2021-10-27T16:48:16Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Nowadays, a wall of text requires more than three swipes on your phone. Didn’t you get the memo?

No, the memo was too long and I didn’t read it.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4895 "2021-10-27T17:06:36Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> “Some of you didn’t bother to address the poster on the issues” and “You put too much effort into your responses so the poster is likely not going to read all that”

It’s like Goldilocks. One bowl of porridge is too hot, another is too cold.

> [@JohnT](#):
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> especially when this critique is coming from Max\_S, a poster well-known for his painstakingly detailed writing…

That’s fair…

> [@JohnT](#):
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> all I have to say is _maybe_ you’re becoming too invested in this place.

If **JohnT** of all people thinks I’m too invested in the SDMB… ! I almost replied to you at 2am, then realized… 🤦‍♂️

~Max

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4896 "2021-10-27T17:20:10Z")

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> [@Temporary\_Name](#):
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> I will now follow my habits, the faults you kindly pointed out in my efforts, and make a lengthy reply to you as well

The irony is not lost on me, and I particularly appreciate this paragraph

> I do not consider it a waste of time to articulate my views, to try to explain my thoughts and feelings and reactions. It allows me to examine my own beliefs, consider the beliefs of others, and perhaps arrive at a synthesis addressing all of the views on a topic. Sometimes I become more committed to a certain view, sometimes I realize that I had made unfounded suppositions and try to correct errors, and sometimes I realize that I had not thought the whole matter through completely. I have been known to alter my views based solely upon stating them out loud.

which totally counters my criticisms of you, despite the fact that this particular poster turned out to be a troll. I feel stupid for not having thought of it first.

~Max

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4897 "2021-10-27T17:21:26Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> If **JohnT** of all people thinks I’m too invested in the SDMB… ! I almost replied to you at 2am, then realized…

It’s a good thing ‘touché’ contains the word ‘ouch’, lest I repeat myself.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4898 "2021-10-27T17:26:59Z")

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It’s touché, you twat.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/4899 "2021-10-27T17:33:51Z")

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It’s now spelled twät, ain’t ya keeping up with the new slang? 😉

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