# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 254
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9545 "2023-06-10T03:57:03Z")
Eh, he’s doing a pretty good job of making himself look stupid and racist with every post. I won’t waste time with him, but no big loss if others do. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9546 "2023-06-10T04:06:28Z")
I’m hoping his arguments will help convince the Mods to make the right decision. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9547 "2023-06-10T05:09:08Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Sorry to bring it back here, but that’s where it belongs: that bellend is trolling the **shit** out of the ATMB thread. I’ve reported it, and won’t respond to him further there, and encourage others not to let it turn into a “satisfy his sad trolly urges” thread. I’ve had him on permagnore for… so long I don’t know how long or why. But given his usurpation of the ATMB thread, I assume it was for his racism. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9548 "2023-06-11T00:02:09Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Yeah, I almost contributed, I would have had the third post. Then I stopped and asked myself, what the fuck am I doing, and what is this going to accomplish. I deleted my draft and checked out of that thread. Hah, I would have had the very first response! Then, like you, I thought better of it, deleted my response (1. Cite? 2. Cite? 3. Cite? 4. Cite? 5. Cite? 6. Cite? 7. Cite?), and reported the thread’s OP as trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9549 "2023-06-11T00:26:11Z")
Drat. I’m losing track. Who’s the bellend? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9550 "2023-06-11T02:17:32Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Drat. l’m losing track. Who’s the bellend? I went to the thread to check, and I’m pretty sure the “bellend” descriptor was being applied to **The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper** , rather confusingly referred to above as “TOWB”. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9551 "2023-06-11T02:56:37Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I went to the thread to check, and I’m pretty sure the “bellend” descriptor was being applied to **The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper** , rather confusingly referred to above as “TOWB”. The Other Waldo Butters? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9552 "2023-06-11T03:13:07Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Why are so many of us willing to be trolled? ⁢ This is actually something I’ve thought about. Two reasons for me: 1. I’ve been called a troll before and I know I’m not, so I want to err on the side of being too lenient. 2. Sometimes I know what they’re doing, but they brought up something I want to discuss or something I would get catharsis out of talking about. My main strategy is just to limit my engagement if I decide to engage at all. But I’m aware there’s a downside to that, in that I still can get upset, and my little bit of troll food can help fuel them. It’s not always the person who keeps feeing them that’s the problem–it can be the people who give little nuggets. But, as long as others seem to get that they’re trolling, I don’t see that as too bad. Plus, it’s not like other people don’t have responsibility for their own responses. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9553 "2023-06-11T06:16:40Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I went to the thread to check, and I’m pretty sure the “bellend” descriptor was being applied to **The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper** Indeed. I thought his intentions were clear from very on in that thread, so I checked out right away rather than waste my time; nevertheless I do salute the yeoman’s work done by everyone else in the thread attempting to pin him down and get him to elaborate on his bland-faced evasions and thereby demonstrating why engaging him on the subject is so unproductive. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9554 "2023-06-11T12:08:42Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > I went to the thread to check, and I’m pretty sure the “bellend” descriptor was being applied to **The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper** , rather confusingly referred to above as “TOWB”. > > The Other Waldo Butters? Professor Chaos and General Disarray? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9555 "2023-06-11T16:00:18Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > My main strategy is just to limit my engagement if I decide to engage at all. But I’m aware there’s a downside to that, in that I still can get upset, and my little bit of troll food can help fuel them. It’s not always the person who keeps feeing them that’s the problem–it can be the people who give little nuggets. I admit to falling into this category more often than is probably healthy. I’ve said so a few times in this very thread. However, I wanted to give support, and was even able to get minor concessions from DrDeth. When WantsToUsePepperSpray started in, it was obvious he wasn’t going to even pretend to argue in good faith, so after 1.5 exchanges with _that_ individual I was done. Probably for the best. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9556 "2023-06-11T16:19:20Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Professor Chaos and General Disarray? Wrong Butters. > **[Waldo Butters](https://dresdenfiles.fandom.com/wiki/Waldo_Butters)** > > Dr. Waldo Butters is a medical examiner\[Footnote 1\] in Chicago. He first appears in Death Masks.\[1\] I’m a five-foot-three, thirty-seven-year-old, single, Jewish medical examiner who needs to pick up his lederhosen from the dry cleaners so that he can... The South Park Butters is named Butters Stotch. [https://media.tenor.com/ERa47gPVan8AAAAM/the-more-you-know.gif](https://media.tenor.com/ERa47gPVan8AAAAM/the-more-you-know.gif) ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9557 "2023-06-11T16:37:20Z")
Just in case anyone didn’t see the most recent note from W\_E in ATMB, the troll that enabled this most recent event has been banned and the thread cornfielded. So long jackass, but I (and others) suspect you’ll not truly gone… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9558 "2023-06-11T18:29:08Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I went to the thread to check, and I’m pretty sure the “bellend” descriptor was being applied to **The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper** , rather confusingly referred to above as “TOWB”. Knowing how he spectacularly wrong got the concept of what a science test is, I think “ **The other Karl Popper abuser** ” fits. He also had a very unhealthy idea about demanding that one should produce a test of science that was personally made about the subject. Never mind that there were many tests that one pointed out to him before, that were made by experts. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9559 "2023-06-11T18:43:04Z")
Well, the TOWP pretends now that I never told him before that I originally came to the US as an undocumented immigrant. Most of my family members actually got to immigrate legally, but as the civil war in El Salvador in the 80s got worse, I had to leave. And pass the border in Tijuana to join my family. Anything from him to still pretend that his bigotry is not there still. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9560 "2023-06-11T18:57:29Z")
And I would say to Sam Stone also that: Yeah Sam. We would not like to find dopers that are an example, who explain why it is bad when some Dopers are using “Invaders” against the undocumented. Calling them invaders is clearly an asinine thing to do, because no one offers amnesty to invaders, they did offer amnesty to undocumented people like me because they did not do such a thing as the word actually means: > **[invader](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/invader)** > > 1. an army or country that uses force to enter and take control of another… ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9561 "2023-06-11T19:04:08Z")
**This is not the thread to continue the debate. Start a new Pit thread or maybe, better yet, let it drop for a little bit.** ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9562 "2023-06-11T21:07:15Z")
I hope the mods are still discussing and will still consider the issue originally raised in the ATMB thread which is now also closed. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9563 "2023-06-11T21:11:28Z")
Check the last 3 posts of the thread, we are. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9564 "2023-06-11T21:20:07Z")
In particular… Continuing the discussion from ["Illegals" and "invaders" should be moderated as hate speech in the context of immigration debates](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illegals-and-invaders-should-be-moderated-as-hate-speech-in-the-context-of-immigration-debates/985244/245): > [@"Illegals" and "invaders" should be moderated as hate speech in the context of immigration debates](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/illegals-and-invaders-should-be-moderated-as-hate-speech-in-the-context-of-immigration-debates/985244/245): > > I believe tomorrow some word on this thread will be given, _not by me._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=253) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=255)