# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 257
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9605 "2023-06-13T17:22:32Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > I\m also very much aware that all the news about Ukraine that we see in English is biased. > There have been virtually no reliable reports on Ukrainian casualties From what news sources are you getting your supposedly more accurate information? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9606 "2023-06-13T17:24:38Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Russia has shown that they can keep fighting as long as they need to. . No matter how many men and tanks are destroyed, they have enough new draftees and enough mothballed equipment to keep fighting for another year or two. Total bullshit. The equipment they’re pulling out of mothballs are museum pieces. The new draftees are quivering, untrained boys and old men with no desire at all to fight. Armies without the desire to fight can’t win, full stop. War is logistics and morale, and Ukraine has big advantages in both. If you really believe that Russia still has a powerful and effective military, much less logistics that can come close to matching NATO (and Ukraine’s logistics are NATO logistics at this point), then you’re so delusional that there’s no point to discussing anything with you. Morale is not about smiles, it’s about a willingness to fight. Ukrainians have as much willingness to fight as anyone can, because they know the alternative is annihilation of their country and their culture. Broadly speaking, Russians have no willingness to fight, because they’re fighting for nothing but Putin’s delusions. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9607 "2023-06-13T17:38:07Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > When those who genuinely believe their arguments but habitually present them while stirring the pot, there is nothing to distinguish them from genuine trolls. It’s a classic lumper vs splitter division. Personally, I don’t find it useful to dissect the psychology behind some jerk’s posts. A Russian troll is someone whose posts promote Russian propaganda, whatever their reasoning for doing so. Or someone whose posts aggravate others, whatever value they may claim to provide. Life is too short to read jerkish posts. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9608 "2023-06-13T17:39:53Z")
Everybody can be a jerk from time to time. But I do agree there’s no effective difference for anybody who makes that their primary trait, regardless of true motivation ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9609 "2023-06-13T18:22:47Z")
**Michael\_Varn** managed to get his own thread shut down in Politics & Elections by ceasing to even pretend that he’s engaged in good faith posting. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9610 "2023-06-13T18:24:17Z")
Please don’t invite the possible bad faith posters here. That never ends well. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9611 "2023-06-13T18:25:09Z")
My bad, force of habit. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9612 "2023-06-13T18:33:34Z")
“Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlej-” “Shut the fuck up!!!” ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9613 "2023-06-13T20:03:38Z")
At least he didn’t “@” them ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9614 "2023-06-13T20:05:43Z")
Actual trolls seem to enjoy doing searches on their user names to see if they’re getting a rise. So the @ is usually bad for a troll as opposed to just a poster people are complaining about. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9615 "2023-06-13T20:38:19Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > > [@chappachula](#): > > > > I\m also very much aware that all the news about Ukraine that we see in English is biased. > > There have been virtually no reliable reports on Ukrainian casualties > > From what news sources are you getting your supposedly more accurate information? I can’t find in **chappachula** ’s post an implication that they purport to be getting _any_ accurate information, from _any_ source. Just a declaration of their predilection to treat “information” from _ALL_ sources as proof of _nothing_. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9616 "2023-06-13T20:44:41Z")
There’s implicitly trustworthy news sources in those posts, though. How else would one trust the reported figures on how much personnel and equipment Ukraine has lost or to know that Russia can continue sustaining losses for “another year or two”? There’s no way to confidently make such declarations unless accurate, trustworthy information is truly available. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9617 "2023-06-13T20:45:44Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > There’s no way to confidently make such declarations unless accurate, trustworthy information is truly available. You can’t trust anything ever, so just assume the worst and we’re all doomed. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9618 "2023-06-13T20:47:45Z")
So, we were always at war with Eastasia? That doesn’t work, either. If so, Ukraine hasn’t really lost 15 APCs or whatever. There is no war to begin with, and it’s all a fiction manufactured by untrustworthy news sources. You can’t fool me! It’s distrust all the way down! ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9619 "2023-06-13T23:44:56Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > At least he didn’t “@” them Actually, **flurb** did @ them, which is why I asked them not to do so. But, **flurb** being an amazing poster, edited it out - thus their follow up comment where they indicated they did so out of habit, not intent. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9620 "2023-06-14T00:29:40Z")
Is that true, **discobot**? Is it really possible to use ninja editing skills to remove an @, and possibly other things, from a post without being noticed? ---
**Author:** ![discobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/discobot/32/570_2.png) [@discobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/discobot)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9621 "2023-06-14T00:29:42Z")
> 🔮 Signs point to yes ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9622 "2023-06-14T00:30:42Z")
Well, if **discobot** says it, _it must be a lie_. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9623 "2023-06-14T00:36:29Z")
I ate some chili that dicobot made one time and got discobotulism. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/9624 "2023-06-14T03:17:27Z")
I see **Dodgy\_Dude** floated back to the surface like an unflushable turd, after nearly a month and _immediately_ started a new “troll the libs” thread about how BOTH Trump and Biden are radioactive and blindly assured us that it would be Newsome and DeSantis. Only two months after we ripped him for his “I don’t understand the intensity of the hatred for Trump”. Any bets if he does anything other than watch people circle the poised bait? To the credit of those who have responded, it’s been largely calm “No, because you’re wrong.” Which IMHO means they may come back with a yet more crazed statement to stir the pot again. Or if we’re lucky, they’ll disappear again for a while. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=256) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518.md?page=258)