# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10105 "2023-08-09T02:45:51Z")

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Isn’t that magellan person an annoying bullshit poster that lay dormant for some years, only to reappear with the same shit they always flung (a lawyer maybe, judging by the style they post?)? I thought they had been banned a long time ago.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10106 "2023-08-09T02:49:08Z")

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His former claim to fame was opposing marriage rights for non heterosexuals, he’s come back to attack trans kids.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10107 "2023-08-09T02:52:23Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Things like, “Who would win in a fight between the Munchkins and the Oompa-Loompas?”

I’m imagining the lollipop guild licking their giant lollipops down to a blade-like edge around the whole circumference and then wielding them like scythes through a field of Oompa-Loompas, their heads popping off like grotesque and horrified pumpkins.

So I guess the munchkins would win (and that’s even discounting their armed forces, soldiers of which can be seen marching in Dorothy’s welcome parade). The Oompa-Loompas’ only hope would be to lure them into their chocolate factory and wage a defensive campaign _a la_ Home Alone and the Fabian strategy of the Second Punic War, but the munchkins would be fools to pursue a war on such terms. Far better to encircle the factory and dig in for a protracted siege. Who knows? If they wait long enough, a house might fall from the sky and smite their enemies. It’s happened before, you know…

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10108 "2023-08-09T02:59:50Z")

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I don’t know, from the Wiki on Oompaland

> According to [Willy Wonka](https://roalddahl.fandom.com/wiki/Willy_Wonka) himself, the whole place is nothing but thick jungles, desolate wastes and the most horrid beasts in the world: Hornsnozzlers, Snozzwangers and Whangdoodles (beasts that, unfortunately, were never documented).

You got to expect that having lived in that hellhole, the Oompa-Loompa’s would have honed some survival skills and the sort of quasi-Russian fatalist attitude (that would serve them will in Wonka’s deathtrap of a factory) that leads to heavy munchkin losses. After all, the munchkin’s had largely buckled under the domineering threat of the Witches and the bluster of the Wizard - their armed forced may be nothing more than a paper tiger.

Okay, got that out of my system.

> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> His former claim to fame was opposing marriage rights for non heterosexuals, he’s come back to attack trans kids.

I read about 5 of their posts, not counting the ones I was vaguely involved in with the “Rudy lies” thread and quickly formed my “fuck them” opinion. The only good news I see was they hadn’t posted for over 4 years prior to a return less than a week ago. I hope they get tired of trolling again quickly and disappear for at least another 4.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10109 "2023-08-09T03:01:35Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> I hope they get tired of trolling again quickly and disappear for at least another 4.

A poster like that doesn’t really disappear, just changes socks.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10110 "2023-08-09T03:07:20Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Years ago, we had a few of those. Things like, “Who would win in a fight between the Munchkins and the Oompa-Loompas?” They were fun and designed to be fun. But they were in no way serious, the way some of the more recent seem

Lol, you just reminded me of when my daughters used to earnestly debate who would win in a fight, Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Dark Angel. They never reached a definitive conclusion.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10111 "2023-08-09T03:12:32Z")

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Yes, thank you.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10112 "2023-08-09T03:13:35Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> I’m imagining the lollipop guild licking their giant lollipops down to a blade-like edge around the whole circumference and then wielding them like scythes through a field of Oompa-Loompas, their heads popping off like grotesque and horrified pumpkins.
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> So I guess the munchkins would win (and that’s even discounting their armed forces, soldiers of which can be seen marching in Dorothy’s welcome parade). … [Snip.]

Just for fun, I went looking for that thread. I found it, and to my surprise (well, it was over 16 years ago, after all), found that I was the OP:

> [@Who would win a war between the Oompa-Loompas and the Munchkins?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-would-win-a-war-between-the-oompa-loompas-and-the-munchkins/386829):
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> During one of our sillier conversations, my wife and I somehow got to debating who would win a war betwen the Oompa-Loompas (from the original Willie Wonka movie) and the Munchkins (from the Wizard of Oz, of course). My wife claims the Munchkins would. They have developed a society in their own land, with a political structure, and were more like a “country” in the modern sense. They would thus fight to defend their land and way of life. I say Oompa-Loompas. Sure, they’re factory workers, b…

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10113 "2023-08-09T03:25:13Z")

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I’m going down the rabbit hole of the O-L / Munchin war, and can’t help but note there was an even EARLIER thread on in 2003.

Then again, there’s the Dark Horse of the Grunka Lunka’s, it’s implied they’ve been involved in some hits.

The prior thread of @Spoons also had a 3 way battle with the Ewoks, but I think in the realm of deadly but small (side helping of cute) no one is going to beat the Niblonians. Small, cute, FTL civilization with energy weapons and the ability to swallow entire beasts in one slurp!

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10114 "2023-08-09T03:27:39Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> I’m imagining the lollipop guild licking their giant lollipops down to a blade-like edge around the whole circumference and then wielding them like scythes through a field of Oompa-Loompas

Your imaginative capacities are original and impressive, not to mention a little bit worrying.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10115 "2023-08-09T05:56:18Z")

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Having served some years in the Navy, I find it all too easy to start thinking of how things presented in film or television can be weaponized within the \*fictional world. In truth, it’s ruined most depictions of space combat for me (Star Wars most of all, but also Star Trek) as I just can’t suspend my disbelief long enough for the action to unfold (I’ve already thought of so many ways the technology in the film should have been weaponized to make the action being presented on screen utterly absurd). A rare exception is _The Expanse_. That’s some damn fine world-building there, right down to all the ways people have come up with to kill each other in space. Five stars out of five.

\*You might be comforted to know this doesn’t extend to real life. But then you may be disquieted to consider that it’s likely because I am all too aware of how extensively things have already been weaponized in real life: I just take it for granted that militaries around the world have already thought up more ways of killing people than even I, with my warped imagination, could possibly imagine, so why bother thinking about it myself?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10116 "2023-08-09T06:03:55Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> I’m getting really sick of magellan01’s JAQing off in multiple threads, but especially the transgender one.

Agree. There’s ignorance that’s willing to learn, and there’s ignorance that fights back with an agenda. I am fervently hoping for a topic ban on the issue in the very near future.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10117 "2023-08-09T06:42:30Z")

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True true, I was joking about the “worrying” aspect, but it was definitely an original take on the Lollipop Guild! 😄

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10118 "2023-08-09T07:35:33Z")

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The man is a goldfish debater. He jumps into the subject, people explain why he is wrong, he pretends to see the light (even agreeing with some posters to show how reasonable he is), but when the same subject comes up again he acts like it is the first time the subject ever came up and he asks the very same questions, gets the very same researched answers and responds the very same way. Wash, rinse, repeat.  
Goldfish: “Look! There’s a castle!..Look! There’s a castle!..Look! There’s a castle!..”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10119 "2023-08-09T07:38:23Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> There’s ignorance that’s willing to learn, and there’s ignorance that fights back with an agenda.

Yep.  
Ignorance = a lack of knowledge, but it can be cured by learning.  
Ignorance that fights back with an agenda = Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10120 "2023-08-09T07:39:32Z")

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Deliberate ignorance.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10121 "2023-08-09T08:25:18Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> His former claim to fame was opposing marriage rights for non heterosexuals

That and the racism.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10122 "2023-08-09T08:36:34Z")

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As if I forgot the _Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo_!

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**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10123 "2023-08-09T12:43:40Z")

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Indeed. This [censored] crawling out from under their rock reminded me of one of my biggest peeves related to the change in board software: my old settings including my ignore list were not carried forward. It took seeing only 2 of their posts to confirm that my decisions to \*plonk\* somebody are usually sound. \*re-plonk\*.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10124 "2023-08-09T13:01:30Z")

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Noob named “Eep” posted a contentless OP in FQ.

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