# Trolls R Us Resurrections (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518 "2021-09-11T17:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 290
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10275 "2023-08-25T15:26:23Z")
> [@The Other Waldo Pepper](#): > > the goal _isn’t_ to deter them, it _isn’t_ to torture them, **it’s to just stop them from being here** — and, if we’ve caught them, we can stop them from being here; and, **if we shoot them for advancing after they’ve been warned, we can stop them from being here, too** ; and if people are thereby deterred, that’s great; but that’s not the goal. (emphasis added) > [@The Other Waldo Pepper](#): > > if they decide to enter the Do Not Enter Or You Will Be Shot area, shrug with indifference and honor their choice > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > And if children die avoidably in the process (which has already happened, IIRC), sociopaths like yourself will shrug and honor that choice. > [@The Other Waldo Pepper](#): > > Quite. And I would, in turn, advise adults not to so cross the border, and I would sure as heck advise them not to bring children along while they’re doing it. And if they _do_ choose to bring a child along, I’ll say, _well, you’ve made your personal moral character quite clear, here._ > [@Cervaise](#): > > Hypothetically, if you were in uniform manning an official guard tower with a rifle, would you take the shot yourself? > [@The Other Waldo Pepper](#): > > Of course; it’d be pretty damned hypocritical of me to ask someone else to do it if I were unwilling to do it myself. I really don’t think I’m putting words in his mouth here. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10276 "2023-08-25T15:44:19Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Thus far he follows the board’s rules and doesn’t cause trouble in general. But if that is beyond the pale for the Pit, up to Miller to decide. It is pretty gruesome. His use of calling immigrants “Invaders” continues, and really, it is really a bit naive to assume that he continues to be an ignorant about other immigrant posters like me who he does consider murderers and prone to violence when coming from another country, The reality is that the use of that word has been used effectively by racists as it seems that the very strong implications go a lot unnoticed by many moderates, The meaning that bigots from the Right is using is clear to me. > **[Talk of 'invasion' moves from the fringe to the mainstream of GOP immigration...](https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1115175247/talk-of-invasion-moves-from-the-fringe-to-the-mainstream-of-gop-immigration-mess)** > > With midterm elections looming, many Republican candidates have embraced increasingly extreme language about immigration. Immigrant advocates worry that such rhetoric stokes fear and hate. > **[Immigration “Invasion” Rhetoric Has a Long, Ugly History](https://www.boundless.com/blog/illegal-immigration-is-not-an-invasion/)** > > Using inflammatory and dehumanizing language to describe immigrants is nothing new, and neither is the violence it causes. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10277 "2023-08-25T15:52:41Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Not a troll but the language-obsessed crazy jaguar strikes me as being too young to be on the Dope. Ahem - see post #5577. (Buffs fingernails). 😉 j ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10278 "2023-08-25T16:33:57Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Not a troll but the language-obsessed crazy jaguar strikes me as being too young to be on the Dope. I was getting potential homework vibes myself. But to quote the entry on Earth, “Mostly Harmless” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10279 "2023-08-25T17:04:37Z")
> [@Treppenwitz](#): > > Ahem - see post #5577. I guess I couldn’t see it among all the posts about chela. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10280 "2023-08-25T17:34:07Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I really don’t think I’m putting words in his mouth here. Agreed. Cervaise’s question was explicitly asking about shooting children. Nothing to see here folks, just our community being used as a platform to advocate for child murder but gosh **at least he’s not calling anybody any names.** ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10281 "2023-08-25T17:59:58Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > > [@Treppenwitz](#): > > > > Ahem - see post #5577. > > I guess I couldn’t see it among all the posts about chela I can’t even find it. Post 5577 according to the sidebar seems to be one of mine, and according to the time/date thing at the top of the post is ten thousand something. The numbers are often off by a bit, but by five thousand?? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10282 "2023-08-25T18:05:30Z")
**Handy Discourse tool.** Click the # and enter **5577** and it jumps to [post 5577](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/10061). > [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/10061): > > Not necessarily trollish, but damn unusual - over in the Miscellaneous forum, a thread about Irish spelling has been revived by a first time poster who claims to be 14 years old (post #21). Hmm. j ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10283 "2023-08-25T18:09:29Z")
He seems harmless and VERY young, to be sure. He PM’d me chit chatty stuff. I think he’s scared of you lot 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10284 "2023-08-25T18:10:25Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > **at least he’s not calling anybody any names.** Indeed. He’s been unfailingly polite, and **you** people have been nothing but **rude**! ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10285 "2023-08-25T18:11:46Z")
Hey, I was nice. ETA, oh you were talking about someone else. I was probably nice to them too. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10286 "2023-08-25T18:16:50Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > **Handy Discourse tool.** > Click the # and enter **5577** and it jumps to [post 5577](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/10061). Thanks. Where’s the #? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10287 "2023-08-25T18:17:12Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Cite please? I suspect you are putting words in his mouth. So you asked for a cite, and I gave you six quotes (four from him, two from others) that provide the context for what my paraphrase. Now that you’ve read those quotes I’m genuinely curious, are you reading his words differently from me? Because I don’t see any other way to read it than that “he’s expresses satisfaction with the idea of snipers murdering children at the border, and indicated a willingness to pull the trigger himself.” I get that it’s @Miller’s problem now, so I’m just asking you as another poster. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10288 "2023-08-25T18:23:06Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > **Handy Discourse tool.** > Click the # and enter **5577** and it jumps to [post 5577](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/10061). > > [Trolls R Us Resurrections - #10061 by Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/10061) That’s post #10061, which you can see if you examine the url. Clicking the time/date of a post shows the url. Also, I don’t see any #. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10289 "2023-08-25T18:28:21Z")
It’s the one on your keyboard, not the screen. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10290 "2023-08-25T18:32:52Z")
Ah, thanks! It seems that posts moved to other threads really messes up the post counts in a thread. According the scroll bar on the right, this is post 5297. But according to the url, it’s post 10290. Very confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10291 "2023-08-25T19:02:19Z")
How about rather than providing a post number, we instead provide a link to the post or even quote it? It would be less confusing and not require everyone else to scroll back to find out what is being referred to. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10292 "2023-08-25T19:06:25Z")
This is the pit, but I have to say I loves you! ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10293 "2023-08-25T19:08:02Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > How about rather than providing a post number, we instead provide a link to the post or even quote it? Yeah, I should have. My bad. And thanks to @What_Exit for doing so. j ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections-part-1/950518/10294 "2023-08-25T19:15:24Z")
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